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Electric Car Prospects Stall, Awaiting Promised Battery Improvements
Forbes ^ | Neil Winton

Posted on 07/26/2015 3:38:55 PM PDT by Hojczyk

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To: DH

“290,000 total stupid idiots”

What percentage of those “stupid idiots” do you think are Federal, State, and Local gov’t agencies buying these things as per some mandate within their agencies?

I bet a large portion (> 50%) are sales to gov’t around the country ... e.g. OUR tax money.


41 posted on 07/26/2015 7:13:27 PM PDT by CapnJack
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To: Hojczyk
This was the same news from 1900. I imagine is 2115 the news will be the same.

Blnk
42 posted on 07/26/2015 7:15:47 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: CapnJack

My though exactly. Wish I had accurate numbers.


43 posted on 07/26/2015 10:44:59 PM PDT by pluvmantelo (My hope for America died 11-06-12.)
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To: Blueflag

“Enjoy the debate. I straddle both sides.”

If we could just get the gubmint out of the whole process THAT is how electric cars could be workable. Let every person make their own decision as to what works best for them and let the market decide what will be successful products.


44 posted on 07/27/2015 4:42:21 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
-- are the voltages unsafe to deal with in a car wreak? --

In a word, maybe. The voltage is dangerous. But it can be dealt with in a safe way.
Facing a Wrecked Electric Vehicle, What Must EMS Staff Know?

45 posted on 07/27/2015 4:53:58 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Gideon7
-- ... and how 40% is used up in generating the electricity at the powerplant in the first place. --

A similar inefficiency attaches to any combustion engine or process. IOW, 40-50% of the energy in gasoline is wasted converting the combustion to torque. Just saying, that loss is generic.

Transmission and conversion losses in electric are analogous to transportation and dispensing losses in combustible fuels.

-- The bottom line is that electric-powered vehicles are one of the most resource-intensive and energy-expensive methods that you can pick for use in personal transportation. --

I think that is true, especially considering the energy required to produce the battery in the first place, compared with the energy required to produce an IC engine. Factor in lifetime of each as well.

46 posted on 07/27/2015 5:00:05 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: anymouse
-- The electric vehicle and it's charging device use pretty much the same voltage (likely 12 volts.) The charger is biased a little higher to give positive Amp flow to the battery. --

Check out the charger specs sometime. The DC chargers (not using the rectifier built into the car) are 50-500 volts. It takes the voltage to get the electrons/charge in, quickly.

It's quite safe, connectors are interlocked with being connected, etc. I suspect the biggest risk in recharging is heat, especially at the battery. If the battery catches fire, it's going to burn, quickly and hot.

47 posted on 07/27/2015 5:10:13 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: central_va

I too, have a background as an electrical engineer specializing in electronics. A simple graph would have sufficed but this monster is something only the government could come up with.

I guess it’s based upon “the new math.”


48 posted on 07/27/2015 5:34:34 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: nascarnation

Perhaps you’d enlighten us with your superior data?


How much does that battery cost and how long will it last?

Would you be stupid enough to purchase an electric vehicle that was 4 years old and after driving it for a year you find that you have to purchase a battery ranging in cost of $4,000 to $10,000? Worse yet, how about the battery becoming obsolete?

Also, try to sell the vehicle if it already needs a new battery. You certainly would be shocked at the price someone would offer for the car.


49 posted on 07/27/2015 5:50:28 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: DH

Also, try to sell the vehicle if it already needs a new battery. You certainly would be shocked at the price someone would offer for the car.


There’s likely to be a lucrative market for stolen batteries.


50 posted on 07/27/2015 9:27:56 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: DH

Well those Teslas are really nice looking.
So if they get as cheap as you forecast, maybe we can swap in a Chevy LS gas motor and have a pretty neat ride?


51 posted on 07/27/2015 1:07:17 PM PDT by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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