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The True Military Record of John McCain Written by an Active Marine
la steel ^ | 9/03/08 | anon

Posted on 07/23/2015 5:39:31 PM PDT by dontreadthis

McCain has never really earned anything. He is from a wealth pampered background and not fit to lead this nation.

A “war hero” doesn’t finished 894th out of 899 and still get stationed at a Navy champagne unit and promoted ahead of all but two of his 898 other classmates.

A “war hero” doesn’t crash three U.S. Navy jets out of sheer incompetence and ineptitude, including two during non-combat training sessions.

A “war hero” doesn’t get written up on drunk-and-disorderly, fraternization, disobeying orders, and insubordination charges more than two dozen times in less than three years. A “war hero” doesn’t get promoted to squadron commander of the air field named after his own grandfather immediately after crashing his third airplane. A “war hero” doesn’t have all the military records that cover his time in Vietnam and all disciplinary actions against him censored and sealed “as a matte r of national security.” A “war hero” doesn’t get 28 medals awarded all after-the-fact “for bravery” for no other reason than being shot down and captured and then go on a celebrity public relations tour because he’s the son of two acclaimed Navy admirals. A “war hero” doesn’t repeatedly cheat on the wife who’s back in the states waiting for him, and then cheat on her more when he returns to the states, and then divorce and abandon her. A “war hero” doesn’t systematically vote against every single pay and benefit increase for military and veterans throughout his entire political career, all the while claiming to be “the soldier’s Congressman,” and then take credit for the passage of a G.I. benefits bill he that voted AGAINST. A “war hero” McCain III lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while practicing landings. He was knocked unconscious by the impact coming to as the plane settled to the bottom. McCain’s second crash occurred while he was deployed in the Mediterranean. “Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula,” Timberg wrote, “he took out some power lines [reminiscent of the 1998 incident in which a Marine Corps jet sliced through the cables of a gondola at an Italian ski resort, killing 20] which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral.” McCain’s third crash three occurred when he was returning from flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game. Timberg reported that McCain radioed, “I’ve got a flameout” and went through standard relight procedures three times before ejecting at one thousand feet. McCain landed on a deserted beach moments before the plane slammed into a clump of trees. McCain’s fifth loss happened during his 23rd mission over North Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1967, when McCain’s A-4 Skyhawk was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. McCain ejected from the plane breaking both arms an d a leg in the process and subsequently parachuted into Truc Bach Lake near Hanoi. For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory), the U.S. Navy awarded McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals. “McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat,” explains Bill Bell, a veteran of Vietnam and former chief of the U.S. Office for POW/MIA Affairs — the first official U.S. representative in Vietnam since the 1973 fall of Saigon. “Since McCain got 28 medals,” Bell continues, “that equals out to about a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat. There were infantry guys — grunts on the ground — who had more than 7,000 hours in combat and I can tell you that there were times and situations where I’m sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison The question really is how many guys got that number of medals for not being shot down.” For years, McCain has been an unchecked master at manipulating an overly friendly and biased news media. The former POW turned Congressman, turned U.S. Senator, has managed to gloss over his failures as a pilot by exaggerating his military service and lying about his feats of heroism. McCain has sprouted a halo and wings to become America’s POW-hero presidential candidate. This article was written by an active, unnamed Marine. It was published by Gale Toensing founder of the Corner Report.com and she sent it to me. It is a true account of McCain’s real war record and evidence of his lack of fitness for the office of President.


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To: Karl Spooner

Maybe he was messed up before he crashed. Maybe being a huge disappointment to his father did something to him. At any rate the best that could be said for him is that his finest moments were over 40 years ago.


21 posted on 07/23/2015 6:53:16 PM PDT by stellaluna
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To: dontreadthis

The Marine is full of dog poop. I knew some darn good fliers who cheated on their wives and who drank too much.

I’ve flown under power lines - both in the back seat of an F-4 and in the right seat of an F-111. Heck, my Dad got in trouble for flying a P-51 down Main Street, below the rooftops.

“For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory), the U.S. Navy awarded McCain ...”

Nope. He got them on the recommendation of his superiors for his time in prison and his behavior there.

“There were infantry guys — grunts on the ground — who had more than 7,000 hours in combat and I can tell you that there were times and situations where I’m sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison...”

McCain still can’t lift his arms. I met Vietnam POWs who were limping and could not get on flying status. Yes, I’ve known grunts with the same sort of problems. My SIL is on 90% disability after two tours in Marine infantry in Iraq. But that doesn’t mean the POWs were having a good time.

Blast it, there are a thousand things to blast McCain for since he came back. I donated to his primary opponent in 2010 and voted against him in the general election. I despise McCain - but is it so tough for people to be honest about what he DID do right?

“A “war hero” doesn’t systematically vote against every single pay and benefit increase for military and veterans throughout his entire political career...”

That didn’t happen, either. If nothing else, McCain gets conservative every 6 years...


22 posted on 07/23/2015 7:03:50 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: G-Bear

” He told me that most of the crashes you hear about in the peacetime military are the result of the pilot managing to piss off the ground crew to the extent that they sabotage the aircraft.”

Absolute horse poop! And that is being kind.

“A favorite trick was to duct-tape a wrench inside the air intake. It would hold on during any revving up on the ground...”

Even more horse poop. The guy you used to work with was blowing smoke up your butt.


23 posted on 07/23/2015 7:06:19 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: NKP_Vet

” Other POWs won’t even sit at the same table with him.” ~ Ross Perot”

Except for men like Stockdale and Bud Day. Ross Perot didn’t know squat all, either. And you KNOW better, but still repeat his lie.


24 posted on 07/23/2015 7:08:19 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
" ... minus a few days of leave and R&R of course."

Don't forget sick call for the kernels of rice imbedded in his arse.

25 posted on 07/23/2015 7:48:23 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: dontreadthis

For having three Purple Hearts, why isn’t John F. Kerry called a war hero?


26 posted on 07/23/2015 8:05:36 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: G-Bear

I would say that is patently untrue, and further, is a despicable, slanderous, and scurrilous accusation.

Unbelievable.

That person is full of crap.


27 posted on 07/23/2015 8:21:55 PM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant.Buy into it,)
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To: Mr Rogers

Ted Guy, his SRO wanted to bring him up on charges. John Dramesi, winner of two Air Force Crosses, who escaped twice as a POW, and never gave one inch to his captors, had no use for McCain.


28 posted on 07/23/2015 8:40:35 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: dontreadthis

His record is no secret. It’s to the disgrace of the Navy if they cover for him. As a politician, he is a shambles at utmost best.

I voted for Sarah Palin so John McCain could keep Dear Leader out of the top office.


29 posted on 07/23/2015 9:51:39 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: P-Marlowe

Just asking.

the massive fire and loss of life on a certain aircraft carrier during the viet nam war, was started by an A4 that hot fired their acft which created stray voltage that fired zunny rockets at other acft was not McCain.

Inquiring minds want to know?


30 posted on 07/23/2015 9:56:22 PM PDT by bayoublazer (Conservative, by reasons of higher cognitive skills!)
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To: G-Bear

I hope nobody really did this. An easier way to sabotage an office would be to drop some MJ in his food. Instant positive drug test. I have a peer who came up hot and I am convinced to this day that somebody laced his food with something.


31 posted on 07/24/2015 4:27:53 AM PDT by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: dontreadthis

I came across this web page earlier today, when roaming around.

It’s an interesting read.

It has quite a bit of information. It seems to have been done without over the top bias one way or the other.

I would still term it not favorable to McCain in it’s presentation, just so folks know what bias they will find heading in.

http://www.pythiapress.com/wartales/McCain-Shootdown.htm


32 posted on 07/24/2015 9:35:15 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: All

Meant to address my post 32 to all, then forgot.

An interesting read folks...


33 posted on 07/24/2015 9:35:55 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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