you’re still not grasping the essential issue.
you can’t try to game the system by splitting a state into many states in order to gain a political advantage against other states without alienating the other states, and that’s what any movement to split CA (or any other state) will ultimately be seen as, outside of that state.
even if a minority in CA don’t feel that their statewide representation cares one bit about their opinions. it happens here and it happens in lots of other states too. secession movements just can’t succeed in the modern age. i think the last one that worked was at the outset of the civil war when VA split into WV and VA, with one staying in the union and the other leaving it.
i spent almost a dozen years in the bay area. i hated it there. the people were not like me and did not believe the things i believed. it was like living in a bizzaro foreign country where up meant down and white meant black. you can probably count on one hand the number of true conservatives there. i was happy to leave. but for all of that, i still would have voted against any referendum to split CA into 2. even if it was an east/west split instead of a north/south split. not only because of the problems it would have caused in the state, but also because i know how feckless the GOP is there and eventually, all 4 of those senate seats would end up in ‘RAT hands for life. other states would not tolerate having their representation diluted either.
consider FDR’s proposal to expand the SCOTUS when he wasn’t able to gain control of the majority by appointment. that was rightly seen as an attempt to stack the court. don’t you think the other 49 states would object in the exact same way to CA going from 2 senators to 12 senators? this is the essential point.
even if CA votes to split into 2 or 4 or 6 or 200 separate states, it’s not gonna fly with the rest of the country. CA can’t force the rest of us to accept them multiplying their influence in DC in this way. and if they were somehow able to get away with it, the floodgates would be open. IL would immediately talk about splitting. same with NY. same with PA. same with lots of other states. and you’d end up with lots more ‘RAT senators in DC overall that would counteract the 2 or 3 GOP senators maybe added by the CA split.
So you lived in the BA. Did you have friends
in Red Bluff or Placerville or Live Oak? Did
you not want to pay the bridge toll to get
out of the Bay Area? Do you live in Colorado
now? That state is certainly liberal proof
now, isn’t it?
I reject and resent your claims of “gaming the
system”. We don’t want or care about power over
other states. We just want a little say-so within
our own realm. The County of LA has 11 state
senators. The 20 counties of Northern California
have a total of 3.
Yes, maybe a good marketing job would be needed
to convince neighbors that a split of California would
be good for them but it would be.The California
GOP has not always been feckless and it could be
strong again like it was during the Reagan years.
You just won’t be convinced that splitting California
means anything but giving liberals more power. I am
a fourth generation Californian who has lived in
Maryland and Arizona. You are just plain wrong.