“Even those who support the Second Amendment do so with reservations, believing that it’s more important to uphold personal liberty than to save lives”.
I’m really not sure what this statement is supposed to mean.
Upholding personal liberty means to me, open carry, Vermont style concealed carry, and the option to carry anywhere anytime, anyway I want to, thus saving lives in the process, especially yours and your loved ones should someone attempt to harm you or yours.
I was going to ask is this satire.
My CCW piece has never been drawn except to practice. And I’ve been a CCW carrier for about 20 yrs. When my great grands visit, or the youngest grands, it is locked in the gun safe and the key is put where they can’t get to it the day before they come.
Killings have actually dropped in states that have decent CCW laws.
>>> ..... private citizens use their concealed handguns to take lives, not to save them. – The Violence Policy Center
I THINK the VPC called drug dealers, gangbangers as ‘private citizens with concealed handguns’.
Anything to support their pet horse theory.
“...The country’s most crime-riddled areas are urban communities
with Democratic leadership. These politicians know that their
awful economic policies are to blame for the dangerous conditions
on the street. So they have to look for something else to blame...”
Pure, and fresh, bovine excrement.
I will post these stats to contribute to the pool of reference materials:
An Analysis of the Arrest Rate of Texas Concealed Handgun License Holders as Compared to the Arrest Rate of the Entire Texas Population,” William E. Sturdevant, September 1, 2000; Florida Department of Justice statistics,
1998; Florida Department of State,
http://concealedguns.procon.org/sourcefiles/sturdevant.pdf
From page 23 of the report:
6.3.3.1 Males
The average male Texan who is 21 years or older is 7.9 times more likely to be arrested for the violent crimes of murder, rape, robbery, and assault than the average male CHL holder. The average male Texan who is 21 years or older is 20 times more likely to be arrested for committing a non-violent crime than the average male CHL holder.
Looking at violent crimes individually, the average male Texan who is 21 years or older is 1.9 times (rate of 9.0 v. 4.8) more likely to be arrested for murder; 68 times (rate of 25 v. 0.4) more likely to be arrested for rape; 49 times (rate of 45 v. 0.9) more likely to be arrested for robbery;
3.2 times (rate of 207 v. 64) more likely to be arrested for aggravated assault; and 11 times (rate of 914 v. 82) more likely to be arrested for other assaults than the average male CHL holder.
No male Texas CHL holder was arrested for negligent manslaughter during the 1996 through 1999 period.
6.3.3.2 Females
The average female Texan who is 21 years or older is 7.5 times more likely to be arrested for the violent crimes of murder and assault than the average female CHL holder. The average female Texan who is 21 years or older is 16 times more likely to be arrested for committing a nonviolent
crime than the average female CHL holder.
Looking at violent crimes individually, the average female Texan who is 21 years or older is 1.7 times (rate of 1.3 v. 0.7) more likely to be arrested for murder; 2.2 times (rate of 48 v. 22) more likely to be arrested for aggravated assault; and 20 times (rate of 180 v. 9) more likely to be
arrested for other assaults than the average female CHL holder.
No female Texas CHL holder has arrested for negligent manslaughter, rape, or robbery during the 1996 through 1999 period.
...
7 CONCLUSIONS:
7.1.1 Arrest data for Texas CHL holders indicate that violent crime is not a consequence of handgun ownership or possession.
7.1.2 The total population of Texas has an arrest rate for violent crime that is 5.3 times higher than Texas CHL holders, based upon data from 1996 - 1999.
...
7.2.1 Arrest data for Texas CHL holders indicate that murder and non-negligent manslaughter is not a consequence of handgun ownership or possession....
...
7.5.2 The total population of Texas has an arrest rate for robbery that is 48 times higher than Texas CHL holders, based upon data from 1996 - 1999.
...
7.9.1 Less than two percent (1.9%) of the arrests of CHL holders for violent crimes that possibly involve weapons (murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, aggravated assault) were classified as “family violence” crimes.
...
7.10.2 The total population of Texas has an arrest rate for non-violent crime that is 14 times higher than Texas CHL holders, based upon data from 1996 - 1999.
from:
Concealed Weapons/Firearms License Statistical Report,” 1998; Texas Department of Public Safety and the U.S. Census Bureau, reported in San Antonio Express-News, September 2000; Texas Department of Corrections data,
1996-2000, compiled by the Texas State Rifle Association
Murder Rates by Minnesota Gun Permit Holders Expose Remarkable Safety of Firearms Owners
When the Minnesota law was passed, an annual report of crimes committed by permit holders was required. The Minnesota permit is simply a permit to carry, the law does not discriminate between carrying concealed and carrying openly.
Reports for the law are available for 2003, and 2005-2012 in pdf files.
The number of people with Minnesota permits that commit murder or manslaughter is remarkably low. Only three instances are recorded in the Minnesota Carry Permit annual reports for the nine years reported.
From the reports, the numbers of valid permits for each year are as follows:
2003 – 15,677
2005 – 32,885
2006 – 42,189
2007 – 51,347
2008 – 56,919
2009 – 69,313
2010 – 79,180
2011 – 91,221
2012 – 114,793
Total for the years listed – 553,524
Rate of carry permit holders committing murder and manslaughter/100,000 per year, .542.
Rate of murder in the general population in Minnesota, per 100,000 averaged for the years 2003, 2005 – 2012, is 1.78.
https://dps.mn.gov/Pages/Results.aspx?k=permit%20to%20carry%20report
2011 Report:
https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/bca/Documents/2011%20Permit%20to%20Carry%20Year%20End%20Report%20Final.pdf
Revised Minnesota Murder/Manslaughter Rates, Wednesday, October 16, 2013
http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2013/10/minnesota-carry-permit-murder-rates_16.html
Quinnipiac Study: Concealed Carry Results in Fewer Murders
“These results suggest that restrictive concealed weapons laws may cause an
increase in gun-related murders at the state level.”
1.3.2014 by Bradford Thomas
In what will certainly be gun control advocates’ new least favorite study,
Quinnipiac University’s Mark Gius found not only that states with
restrictive concealed weapons laws had higher gun-related murder rates, but
that assault weapons bans had no significant impact on murder rates at the
state level.
The study by economist Mark Gius, published in Applied Economics Letters,
sought to “determine the effects of state-level assault weapons bans and
concealed weapons laws on state murder rates,” using extensive data from a
thirty-year period, 1980-2009. In the abstract for the study, Gius sums up
the findings:
Using data for the period 1980 to 2009 and controlling for state and year
fixed effects, the results of the present study suggest that states with
restrictions on the carrying of concealed weapons had higher gun-related
murder rates than other states. It was also found that assault weapons bans
did not significantly affect murder rates at the state level. These results
suggest that restrictive concealed weapons laws may cause an increase in
gun-related murders at the state level.
Gius notes that these results are consistent with previous research,
specifically citing the work by John R. Lott and David B. Mustard.
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/quinnipiac-study-concealed-carry-results-fewer-murders
link to study
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13504851.2013.854294#.UsblyNK1y-2
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/13504851.2013.854294
In all fairness, those arguments against concealed carry are so utterly rejected by the public that even mentioning them comes across, oddly enough, as a straw man argument.
Even radical anti-gun liberty nuts don’t believe that concealed carry is a real threat; they are just entirely cynical in their efforts to ban guns that they would assert that night is day and up is down. With the possible exception of Michael Bloomberg, who has mental issues to the point of being psychotic. And he is the one who meets the payroll of the anti-gunners, so they will agree with anything he says.
Armed criminals are part of the public too!
They are a threat to all the young skiddle loving gentle giant polar bear hunters!
Its a logic and personal justification train.
1. You deserve help from others.
2. You are entitled to help from others.
3. Whatever you don't have is the result of others having too much.
4. You are entitled to take what others have.
5. If others won't give you what you want, you are entitled to take it with force.
Ummm, they're LIBERAL groups - of course they're lying...
Oooooh, it’s Monday. Judy Woddruff is doing a story on guns in Chicago, tonight.