Fact Check: The Washington Post on Donald Trump and John McCain

Sharyl Attkisson ^ | Attiksson | Sharyl

[cva66snipe]

McCain may have screwed up in his earlier days flying. The skills to put a plane on the flight deck of a carrier shows the real skills he acquired and that is to his credit. It is a very unforgiving task.

I wasn't in during. Nam I went in a few years after it ended. But we lost pilots due to crashes. Some were landing on the flight deck some were taking off and the planes engines flamed out. The worst one was a Hoover {S-3} that caught the last arresting cable one night landing. Mans skull went into the side of the ship upon jetison. Such was the 1970's life on a carrier.

[4rcane]

Some of us have a stricter definition of a hero and not willing to accept your definition of it. The Right also have their own sacred cows they protect against any truth telling. Not everyone who serve is a hero.

What I see here is the Right engaging in political correctness

[familyop]

And we were being so nice and lenient in regards to bad behavior.

Donald Trump, when criticizing the service of an American who was captured and tortured as a POW after flying 22 bombing missions in Vietnam, said, “He’s not a hero...I like people that weren’t captured.” The man Trump was talking about had earned a Silver Star, Legion of Merit, Distinguished Flying Cross, Bronze Star, Navy Commendation Medal and quite a few other awards.

Trump’s socialist supporters continue to spit on those who served their country out of fear that Governor Scott Walker will become president and cut the big government spending that goes into their salaries and pensions. Walker is the only candidate with a real record of cutting much big government spending in his own state.

[PraiseTheLord]

McLame *earned* ?????? all those things ?!

The way I heard it, his daddy bought them for him ~

[spinestein]

Is John Kerry a war hero?

He did serve in Nam and was awarded 3 Purple Hearts.

[familyop]

Donald Trump said in reference to POWs, “I like people that weren’t captured.”

Some of you fail to understand the importance of that, and I know why. Good public affairs is much more important than believed to be by many vain political class folks receiving incomes from big civilian government spending.

[fella]

Why do the proprietors of the Hanoi Hilton refer to McCain as “Songbird”?

[familyop]

"have you seen the fema camps, shackle box cars, thousands of guillotines, stacks of coffins"

No, I haven't. That sounds really exciting, though.

[Stepan12]

I think McCain has a point. John McCain is a war hero because he was captured. Compared with the late Adm. Jerimiah Denton, his feats of heroism in the POW camps were not apparent. This compared with Sen. Denton who when interviewed as a POW blinked out the word “torture” on tv. The North Vietnamese didn’t catch on.

[Balding_Eagle]

Future reference.

[jazzlite]

I lost any admiration and confidence I had in McCain years ago.

[CitizenUSA]

McCain can be both a war hero AND a terrible politician. I thank him for his military service and sacrifice but wish he’d retire from politics.

[CitizenUSA]

McCain can be both a war hero AND a terrible politician. I thank him for his military service and sacrifice but wish he’d retire from politics.

[babygene]

“Donald Trump Attacks John McCain’s Vietnam War Service - Donald Trump Family Leadership Summit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlCIzW-i28E&feature=youtu.be&t=15s “

thanks

[mazda77]

Correct, just as Benedict Arnold was a war hero for the battle of Saratoga and later became a traitor over a piece of tail.

Arnold was renowned for several actions over a period of time. His notable actions included the Capture of Fort Ticonderoga in 1775, defensive and delaying tactics despite losing the Battle of Valcour Island on Lake Champlain in 1776, the Battle of Ridgefield, Connecticut (after which he was promoted to major general), operations in relief of the Siege of Fort Stanwix, and key actions during the pivotal Battles of Saratoga in 1777.

BUT, with all of that, he will always be the iconic figure of a traitor because of his reversing sides.

To me, McCain’s time in the HH deserves the same footnotes as Arnold’s accomplishments, but his dereliction of duty as a public servant is far more damaging to this country. His latest is he used his power to secretly meet with our new enemy (ISIS) and tried to sell them to us as allies. The ironic thing is that they got their weapons to use against us through Obama and Hitlery through the illegal actions in Libya.

[harpu]

AMEN, to all of your examples given!

[ReaganGeneration2]

The point is they’re stalking all 15+ candidates for slip ups until only Jeb remains. This is the next 12 months of news.

[harpu]

"One endorsement I saw on the list was a former POW whom I would trust with my life and in a sense did. It didn't change my mind about not voting for McCain I voted Independent."

Like the Bruce Jenner 'courage thing', admitting you voted Independent against the GOP (and for Obama), speaks volumes as to who you really are.

[onyx]

This is what TRUMP Actually Said!

"I am not a fan of John McCain because he has done so little for our Veterans and he should know better than anybody what the Veterans need, especially in regards to the VA. He is yet another all talk, no action politician who spends too much time on television and not enough time doing his job and helping the Vets. He is also allowing our military to decrease substantially in size and strength, something which should never be allowed to happen.

Furthermore, he was extremely disrespectful to the thousands upon thousands of people, many of whom happen to be his constituents, that came to listen to me speak about illegal immigration in Phoenix last week by calling them "crazies".

These were not "crazies"---these were great American citizens.

I have great respect for all those who serve in our military including those that weren't captured and are also heroes.

I want to strengthen our military and take care of our Veterans. I want to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN especially for those that serve to protect our freedom. I am fighting for our Veterans....

Sharyl Attkisson with Robert W Brooks.

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[grania]

He served, he is a hero

That's an insult to real war heroes. My father got drafted in WW2, dismissed for flat feet. War hero or good talker? What about those "war heroes" who because of connections served their time during Viet Nam at a recruiter's desk? War heroes or real sickos who would encourage others to fight in a war when they wouldn't?

McCain served, he might or might not have done some heroics during his service and capture, but he's no hero. Look at all the damage he's done to the US and globally since. I submit that McCain is a self-involved traitor who has done irreparable damage to the US, and perhaps all of civilization.