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To: DoughtyOne; smokingfrog; vette6387
This guy may have had a attitude thinking himself to be the top dog on scene.

Re-reading those words, DoughtyOne.

You wouldn't think of yourself as "top dog" on the scene if it was you?

You call for such disarmed fear and submission to civil servants (cops) returning your loud and disorderly lush wife from the neighbor's? You don't know if they're real cops or what, and they're at your door? But you believe people on their own property have no right to brandish weapons while officers are present, or risk being shot by officers for the sheer temerity of "having an attitude of thinking he was top dog on the scene"??

Man.

56 posted on 07/19/2015 12:51:07 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

Finny, you’re right as rain! The cops are gun crazy and it’s a national disgrace! And here we are debating whether or not the Second Amendment plainly says what is says. These jerks in black robes all over the country sitting around contemplating their navels haven’t a clue about the Bill of Rights! And when cops break the laws they are sworn to uphold, they should be suffering the same penalties for doing so as anyone else. Seaside is just another Waco.


68 posted on 07/19/2015 8:23:30 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Finny

Finny, police officers are an extension of the judicial system. Without them, there is no judicial system. They are sworn to uphold the laws of their jurisdiction. They evaluate actions by the public and site them for violations of law, instructing them to appear, or pay fines. If they observe a crime they are authorized to take the citizen into custody to appear before the court. If there is a warrant out for a citizen’s arrest, they are authorized to take that citizen into custody.

Do I think a person should be the “top dog” of their home? Sure I do, with limited exceptions. Being in your home is not the basis for denying an officer the ability to take you into custody if circumstances warrant.

There are statutes on the books. I don’t at all times agree with all of them, but the time to debate their legitimacy is not when an officer comes to your door. That time is when you address the court with an attorney.

Why do I say this? Is it to support a police state, or is it to help FReepers survive a confrontation with police.

Frankly, I’m not suggesting anyone here do anything I wouldn’t be prepared to do myself. I know how to be more safe than if I acted a different way, so I pass it along.

If you want to push your point that you are top dog on your property, by all means walk out in front of a number of police officers with a gun in your hand and yell at them. Wave it around to prove your point.

I can’t stop you. I can only tell you which is best. Do you want to die on your porch, or would you like to live a couple more days to defend your position in front of someone who can listen without a gun being pointed in his direction?

Generally your family will remain at your home, awaiting your safe return. To me that’s more preferential than them having to make calls to arrange for burial services. I guess I would have to be an officer to think this right? /s


81 posted on 07/19/2015 1:11:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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