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1 posted on 07/15/2015 4:58:27 AM PDT by SJackson

There never were any “red lines”. The end result was known the day Obama took office. The rest was all show.

2 posted on 07/15/2015 5:00:08 AM PDT by Eddie01

Hitler and the NAZIs killed one Jew and dissident at a time.

America under the Moslem-alQaeda Tyrant and the Uniparty
already kills thousands, and will kill millions,
of innocent Christians and Jews at a time.

This genocidal spree, led by America, cannot end well.

3 posted on 07/15/2015 5:06:01 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")

guide lines are drawn lightly so as to be easy to erase

4 posted on 07/15/2015 5:08:37 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)

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5 posted on 07/15/2015 5:09:09 AM PDT by SJackson (C Matthews: should NY State recognize gay marriage? Sen Clinton: "No!" The crowd booed, 2002)

Money changed hands, for sure.

7 posted on 07/15/2015 5:11:55 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What is freedom? To have the will to be responsible for one's self. "M. Stirner)

9 posted on 07/15/2015 5:20:32 AM PDT by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)

In my view, there are two fundamental reasons this agreement (aka capitulation) stinks.

One, bammy is a Muslim and wants to see Islamic states succeed. If he is not actually a practicing Muslim he is at the very least extremely sympathetic to Muslims and wants to see Muslim states and "leadership" succeed. Therefore, they were never really going to stop Iran. Maybe delay some components of Iran's plans while actually helping others.

Two, bammy is staring down the barrel at the end of his reign of terror and he's thinking about "legacy" and what he'll be remembered for. Resurgent fighting in Iraq? More deaths in Afghanistan on his watch than actually during the war? The big lie that is obamacare? Mind-boggling debt? He needs something, even if only symbolic, that he can point to other than some rainbow colored sh...er "stuff." Something that'll give him some kind of credibility on the talk circuit (he's has no-doubt taken note of Bill and Hillary's millions gleaned from that). Therefore I am 100% certain, bet you anything you care to name, the "negotiating" team had absolute orders: broker an agreement. In other words, walking away with no deal and continued sanctions was never, ever going to be an option. The Iranians aren't fools. The could guess those were the instructions. I'm sure as "negotiations" got under way it was obvious to them they were right. Frankly, I'm a little surprised they didn't push for even more. Though what they got, knowing their opponents had to, HAD TO, reach some kind of deal (even extending talks several times) was pretty sweet for them.

10 posted on 07/15/2015 5:24:13 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)

Outcome-based diplomacy

13 posted on 07/15/2015 5:34:42 AM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)

15 posted on 07/15/2015 6:01:46 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)

17 posted on 07/15/2015 6:32:40 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)

What still amazes me, is how many times in the last 4 months, they claimed they needed “more time”. Now I see they were ALWAYS going to give the Iranians everything they wanted, it was all just a big Head-Fake. We have been 100% deceived by our elected (+ non-elected) officials.

18 posted on 07/15/2015 11:22:34 AM PDT by Pagey (HELL is The 2nd Term of a POTUS who is a TRUE DIVIDER of humans)

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