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At Point Lookout in Southern Maryland, Confederate flag still flies
Baltimore Sun ^ | 7/12/15 | Colin Campbell

Posted on 07/13/2015 1:59:59 AM PDT by markomalley

While the Confederate battle flag is coming down from the State House grounds in South Carolina and around the nation, it continues to fly here in St. Mary's County, at the center of a privately owned monument next to the largest burial site of rebel soldiers in Maryland.

Clinton Cole took pictures of the private monument last week and shook his head.

"That flag stands for nothing but hate," said the 49-year-old Longview Beach man, who is black. "This is 2015, and we're still dealing with this?"

But Jim Dunbar, who heads the group that built the monument, says the flag stands for his heritage.

"It's a symbol of the whole defiance against the federal government," Dunbar said. "They were rebelling for the same reason their grandfathers fought in the Revolutionary War — freedom from a strong centralized government."

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Maryland
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1 posted on 07/13/2015 1:59:59 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Privately owned monument... end of discussion.


2 posted on 07/13/2015 2:13:14 AM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War needs to happen.)
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To: maddog55
Privately owned monument... end of discussion.

You've never heard of eminent domain?

3 posted on 07/13/2015 2:15:57 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley
Why stop with just this one Flag, (South Carolina) call their bluff and ask about exhuming the bodies in / at Arlington Cemetery in Washington D.C.????

Ok, I can hear you now, what in the world is this so & so talking about.

Well, if the flag that was used by the Army of Northern Virginia (The people living in the Ivory White Towers, will tell you it's the "Confederate Flag",..WRONG) is so "offensive," because one of the commanders of the Army of Northern Virginia was none other then (Wait for it) Confederate Commander Robert E.Lee. Then reason & logic follow that every body in / at Arlington Cemetery should be immediately exhumed. Why might you say --- Answer is quite simple: Arlington Cemetery in Washington D.C. was the home of none other then Confederate Commander Robert E.Lee.

Confederate Robert E. Lee
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Lee See the section "After the war."

2nd paragraph.

Lee's prewar family home, the Custis-Lee Mansion, was seized by Union forces during the war and turned into Arlington National Cemetery. The family was compensated in 1883.[105] {$150,000.00 of 1883 dollars would be worth $3,488,372.00 in 2014, or put another way $150,000.00 of 2014 dollars would be worth $6,450.00 in 1883 dollars.}

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Lee#cite_note-105

[105] In December 1882, the U.S. Supreme Court returned the property to Lee's son because it had been confiscated without due process of law. In 1883, the government (United States) paid the Lee family $150,000. "Arlington House, The Robert E. Lee Memorial". Arlington National Cemetery.

See: http://www.arlingtoncemetery.mil/Explore-the-Cemetery/History/Arlington-House

See the section "George Washington Parke Custis"

8th paragraph.

Arlington National Cemetery was established by Brig. Gen. Montgomery C. Meigs, who commanded the garrison at Arlington House, appropriated the grounds June 15, 1864, for use as a military cemetery. His intention was to render the house uninhabitable should the Lee family ever attempt to return. A stone and masonry burial vault in the rose garden, 20 feet wide and 10 feet deep, and containing the remains of 1,800 Bull Run casualties, was among the first monuments to Union dead erected under Meigs' orders. Meigs himself was later buried within 100 yards of Arlington House with his wife, father and son; the final statement to his original order.

4 posted on 07/13/2015 2:18:15 AM PDT by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's don't lie, they just Testily{ing} as taught in their respected Police Academy.)
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To: maddog55

Didn’t anti-Christian zealots in California get a giant cross taken down because it was publicly visible?


5 posted on 07/13/2015 2:19:53 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ("Psychopathia Sexualis, I'm in love with a horse that comes from Dallas" - Lenny Bruce (1958))
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To: markomalley

One person’s junk is another person’s treasure.

The homogenizing of America continues on. Everything any leftist doesn’t like must go while things like the rainbow flag gain prominence.

They keep pushing and pushing. Soon they will find the Confederate Battle flag will regain it’s original meaning to all as a symbol of rebellion against the left and political correctness and not a minute too soon.

It is NOT a symbol of hate and never was. Only the ignorant on the left will see it that way because they are too stupid to know any better. Their minds are made up and they either have white guilt (something I cannot understand) or they hate whitey so everything of value to any white person in terms of symbols must go in their minds.

And they wonder why so many are talking about civil disobedience and possibly civil war. Jade Helm 15. One must wonder if this is somewhat orchestrated. I just hope we can avoid violence at least until the Kenyan has left the peoples house. Hopefully they don’t steal the china like a certain H.R. Clinton did.


6 posted on 07/13/2015 2:52:35 AM PDT by Boomer (Politically Incorrect and proud of it. “Live Free or Die” is not just a slogan.)
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To: markomalley

The correct response from conservatives should be this is a non issue with us because that flag was created by democrats and every state house it flies over it was democrats that were in charge of that state.
The issue would disappear


7 posted on 07/13/2015 4:15:04 AM PDT by stockpirate (A corrupt government is the real enemy of the people.)
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To: markomalley

Taking it down confirms hate, only the left is totally intolerant. What a bunch of hypocrites.


8 posted on 07/13/2015 4:56:48 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else)
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To: markomalley

Don’t anyone forget that Maryland was dragooned into staying with the Union. The state song begins thus:

“The tyrant’s heel is at thy door, Maryland my Maryland.”

The `tyrant’ it referes to was not Jefferson Davis!


9 posted on 07/13/2015 5:25:34 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: stockpirate

Your meme is stupid. Nobody views the CBF as a symbol of the Democrat Party.


10 posted on 07/13/2015 5:31:07 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: markomalley
"That flag stands for nothing but hate," said the 49-year- old Longview Beach man, who is black. "This is 2015, and we're still dealing with this?"

YES, BECAUSE BLACK PEOPLE STAND FOR HATE.

11 posted on 07/13/2015 6:36:14 AM PDT by Will we know the moment (e are no longer a republi)
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To: markomalley

One of my g-g-grandfathers was imprisoned at Point Lookout. He fought the entire war (wounded at First Manassas) and was captured in 1864 and sent to Point Lookout. One of my wife’s g-g- grandfathers died while imprisoned at Fort Delaware and is buried in a mass grave in New Jersey. Even though the North had better resources, the Confederqate death rate while prisoners of war was about the same as Union POWs.


12 posted on 07/13/2015 6:38:16 AM PDT by wfu_deacons
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To: markomalley

Will this flag fall victim to the federal anti-flag jihad? It’s a state park, one would hope not. But it wouldn’t surprise me if they did away with it.


13 posted on 07/13/2015 6:46:03 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Stanwood_Dave
Answer is quite simple: Arlington Cemetery in Washington D.C.

No. Arlington is in Virginia.

14 posted on 07/13/2015 8:08:04 AM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: markomalley

I’ll stand by the privately owned. This is St Mary’s County and it’s one of the few counties in this shit hole of a state that’s conservative.


15 posted on 07/13/2015 3:17:09 PM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War needs to happen.)
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To: maddog55
I’ll stand by the privately owned. This is St Mary’s County and it’s one of the few counties in this shit hole of a state that’s conservative.

For the viewing audience (since I'm sure you already know it), "eminent domain" is a provision of law that states that the State can take over any piece of private property it wants to accomplish a public purpose.

Maryland could decide that it wanted to build a parking garage on the site and perfectly legally take the property for that purpose. We know that this is 100% legal because of the Kelo decision of SCOTUS a few years ago. If, later on, the state ran into a problem with the parking garage project, for example, they couldn't get the rest of the millions needed...well, the property still belongs to the state.

You'll see an example of this soon when they take the property needed to build the "Purple Line."

16 posted on 07/13/2015 4:15:56 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: BubbaBasher
Thank you for the correction.

Would I be correct to say that from the actual "Mansion," one could see Washington D.C.?

17 posted on 07/13/2015 11:06:27 PM PDT by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's don't lie, they just Testily{ing} as taught in their respected Police Academy.)
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To: Stanwood_Dave

Most definitely. It’s just across the river.


18 posted on 07/14/2015 6:10:46 AM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: central_va

well it should be, they created the CBF to begin with.


19 posted on 07/15/2015 6:32:40 AM PDT by stockpirate (A corrupt government is the real enemy of the people.)
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To: markomalley; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; Bigg Red; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


20 posted on 07/15/2015 8:34:10 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Cancer-free since 1988! US out of UN! UN out of US!)
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