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Trump Fans, It’s Time for An Intervention
National Review ^ | July 11, 2015 | Jonah Goldberg's Weekly News Letter

Posted on 07/11/2015 1:59:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Sherman Logan
That doesn’t mean we should elect the Devil or the squirrel President.

Clinton, Obama? You might be justified in believing that he already owns the office. Seems a bit silly to have people running around with their hair on fire worrying about it happening.

141 posted on 07/11/2015 5:12:10 AM PDT by Stentor ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
People who share principles should not only hear each other out when they disagree; they should be able to see each other’s points and hold open the possibility that one’s opponents have the better argument. This is not one of those times . . .


Unfortunately, Constitutional conservatives have always been given a wink and then kept in the back of the bus and only let out to do the leg work. I've been listening to this kind of crap for nearly forty years as the establishment pubbies have failed to carry the platform over and over when they have had the power and the opportunity to really make change. Now that we're on the brink of forever, this nattering nabob of negativity want us all to participate in the Punch and Judy show one more time.
142 posted on 07/11/2015 5:13:48 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: jazzlite
....Donald Trump did not get his wealth from robbing the federal coffers and that is why he can speak the truth....

Trump likes to utilize Eminent Domain.

".....A decade and a half ago, it was fresh on everyone’s mind that Donald Trump is one of the leading users of this form of state-sanctioned thievery. It was all over the news. In perhaps the most-remembered example, John Stossel got the toupéed one to sputter about how, if he wasn’t allowed to steal an elderly widow’s house to expand an Atlantic City casino, the government would get less tax money, and seniors like her would get less “this and that.” Today, however, it takes a push from the Club for Growth to remind us of Trump’s lack of respect for property rights....."

143 posted on 07/11/2015 5:14:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Red Steel

“Jonah Goldberg: Trump Is a ‘Bane of Humanity,’ ‘Drives Me Crazy’ That Fox Takes Him Seriously”


Like Jonah, but he and other news media types are missing the fact that many of us are tired of hearing “ opinions” which in most cases have been wrong about topics that we care about.

Love him or hate him, its not hard to understand Donald. He’s an old school straight talker who has won and lost in life , and at this point seems to be the one most willing to talk about success for America in simple terms.


144 posted on 07/11/2015 5:19:36 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

Well, it does prove that if you have a lot of personal wealth, you would have had to do a few things right, but that doesn’t mean you are a good politician...

That being said, I do not think Trump is in this to win...He’s in there to make a splash, and a few under the table assurances for future money making endeavors...

I do not see Trump sticking around after Super Tuesday...By then a lot of these campaigns will be done for at that point, and his purpose will be done...

To push the GOP’s Jebby to the convention and another hold your nose at the polls next year...

If that happens to be the result, you can be assured Hillary will be the next president...

I really, really hope to be proven wrong next year...


145 posted on 07/11/2015 5:19:52 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: nathanbedford

Except for Ronald Reagan, and even he changed his stance on abortion, you can not find a politician — one who studies the impact of his statements — who has not uttered inconsistent beliefs. How much more so than with someone like Trump, who has only dallied with it in the past.

After the November election, when the democrats were handed one of the biggest defeats in history, and it was COMPLETELY NULLIFIED by the Republicans, what on earth do we have to lose with a guy who at least is PREACHING the right thing. Which one of the Republican candidates can you count on to break out of the RINO mold? With the immigration crisis, this will be out last chance to preserve our nation. Literally.

Goldberg completely negated any perceptive ability he claims to have about Trump when he suggested Trump is a stalking horse for Hillary Clinton; he also wrote that Trump is a “failed man”. How is it possible to regard Trump as a “failed man’? And so he whines when Trump belittles him (he left him no choice) and he whines about Trump hurting the Republican brand, and as you point out, Trump is no where in the league with Boehner and McConnell for accomplishing that.


146 posted on 07/11/2015 5:20:26 AM PDT by odawg
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To: spodefly

I do. Read around the web. Trump is the man everyone is excited about. The rest are mealy-mouthed contenders. They are going down. Trump and Cruz. The dynamic duo.


147 posted on 07/11/2015 5:21:48 AM PDT by stilloftyhenight (In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He said he will not run third party and with all the support he is getting, he won’t have to.


148 posted on 07/11/2015 5:23:43 AM PDT by stilloftyhenight (In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Here's the best way to understand Trump. Trump is the first ship, the ice breaker, and Cruz is the trailing ship.


149 posted on 07/11/2015 5:24:07 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (WSC: The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Here is the thing about all those previous positions: Trump is just waiting for thiose questions. I think he salivates over getting them. Because he's going to be the only candidate out there who can (and will) legitimately say, "Yes I did endorse Obama in 2008 and like many Americans I am very disappointed in what a terrible job he has done. He let us all down and now we need to fix what he messed up." Or, "yes I had high hopes for Hillary, but as we have seen she was a disaster."

Trump is not an ideologue and is no conservative. Few think that.

He is a business-oriented problem solver. I would rather have a guy in there with whom I believe on three issues, but who fixes those three issues, than a guy who shares 100% of my views but can't stand up to the media and elites to get anything done.

Jonah is right, anger is not an issue. But you know what? Neither was "hope and change" or "a chicken in every pot" but they win elections because Americans anymore don't seem to have the capacity to talk issues, only passion and personality. Heck, Reagan ran on one line: "Are you better off today than you were four years ago?"

Goldberg us stuck in policy wonk world where this or that candidate's cute little tweaks impress him.

150 posted on 07/11/2015 5:26:07 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

In other words, Trump, like Rush, is listening to the people when apparently no one else is. Imagine that from a candidate.


151 posted on 07/11/2015 5:28:00 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: miss marmelstein

I remember Trump in the 1970s and what a local joke he was.

I moved out for good in 1980. Seems like the boy has made good since then.

People do grow up.


152 posted on 07/11/2015 5:28:26 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I agree with Jonah.


153 posted on 07/11/2015 5:29:43 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Be proud you're a Rebel.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“What is Trump’s motivation?”

At some level it’s the same motivation as all of them have - ego. Ego is the absolute central motivator of politicians - except for those whose primary motivation is making money, and the small number who actually want to help make the world a better place. Beyond that, I think he truly believes what he is saying. Just my take.


154 posted on 07/11/2015 5:34:27 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: nathanbedford

By the way, I just read a column by Mark Steyn. He writes about Trump, per immigration, in about the way I just posted to you. And he was not negative, about Trump, the way Goldberg implied he was in his article.


155 posted on 07/11/2015 5:34:35 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“If you want to give him credit for starting a worthwhile debate about sanctuary cities and illegal immigration, fine. I think that argument is way overdone, but certainly reasonable enough.”

Way overdone? Does Joanne have ANY IDEA that there are 30,000,000 ILLEGALS in this country. Or does she just think that it’s only the handful he sees at Home Depot once in a while?

This is SCARY STUFF.


156 posted on 07/11/2015 5:36:25 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
You seem to have been asleep for the last two decades. "Dirty laundry?" Absolutely irrelevant unless you are a play-by-the-rules Republican that will meekly apologize and go away when you bring up a kiss with a staffer at a party. Does that really sound like the Donald? It never deterred Obama or Warren or Hillary or ANY Dem.

That stuff all will come out and it won't matter any more than Emmitt Smith quitting as a Miss America judge. Because TRUMP DOESN'T CARE.

This is what the old style pols and analysts don't get. With the exception of Cruz---who has yet to weather this level of attack, though I think he can---Trump is the only one with enough money and enough ego to tell yahoos like Jonah to piss off.

157 posted on 07/11/2015 5:38:33 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS

As long as Cruz is ok with how Trump is rolling, I have no criticism. I’ll take cues from Cruz over Goldberg any day of the week and twice on Sunday!


158 posted on 07/11/2015 5:39:55 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Great read. Thanks.


159 posted on 07/11/2015 5:42:16 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Calm down Joanne, if you gals REALLY want to silence him, you gals can start addressing Illegal immigration.

But since that isn’t happening, TRUMP OWNS THE STAGE - and it is YOUR FAULT that is the case, not our fault. We’ve been SCREAMING FOR YEARS for Republicans to address the issue, and we get laughed at and stepped on by your type of people.

You can’t do that to Trump - the only option you have is to ADDRESS THE ISSUE - or you may very well be covering his inauguration, because there are a lot of DEMOCRATS and Independents also fed up with what this country has become due to Open Borders.


160 posted on 07/11/2015 5:43:10 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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