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To: Crim

Maybe the items in the motion were brought up because the mother was doing all that stuff! There are at least two professionals who have agreed that the mother has been alienating the children from their father.

Basically, from whaf it looks like, the mother left with the children and took them to another country, then worked on the children to turn them against their father.

Are you saying you would just let that happen to your own children? You would just walk away because they didn’t want to see you, even tho it seemed that their mother was, really, psychologically abusing them by alienating them from you, as well as by keeping them from their father (which is a bad thing for children).

This all started when the children were very young: the final separation and divorce seem to have been 6 years ago, so even the oldest was 9 at the oldest when his mother might have started all this (and he may have been a couple of years younger). So it would in no way correspond to how a child would react if the divorce occurred when he or she was a teen.

And where would the children be if the mother was put in jail? All their relatives are in Israel. So if the mother was put in jail, the children would be in state care anyway. But it seems she may have avoided jail by changing her actions while the children did not.

There is no evidence that the father was abusive other than the boy’s statement but there is evidence the mother was manipulating the children to believe bad things about their father.

The children are continuing with the counseling so hopefully this will all be resolved.

And the father does **not** want to see them in state custody—the judge said she would have done this sooner in the process except for the father’s request that it not happen.


82 posted on 07/09/2015 7:41:42 PM PDT by Chicory
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To: Chicory
Maybe the items in the motion were brought up because the mother was doing all that stuff! There are at least two professionals who have agreed that the mother has been alienating the children from their father.

And maybe it was throwing crap at the wall to see what might stick.

Again...no legal action was taken against the mother other than to deny her contact with the kids

Basically, from whaf it looks like, the mother left with the children and took them to another country, then worked on the children to turn them against their father.

Not correct.

"What happened is that Mr. Tsimhoni took a job with GM in 2008. He moved to take a position in Israel and initially, Ms. Tsimhoni, who like Mr. Tsimhoni is originally from Israel, did not want to move back with him, even though both sets of grandparents lived in Israel.

“She decided not to come. Then she filed for divorce and stopped letting me see the kids or speak to the kids. After some months there was a reconciliation. She moved to Israel, we moved all of our belongings here and then one day she suddenly disappeared and took the kids. Next I heard from her she was in Michigan – not where we had lived, in Ann Arbor, but in Oakland County. That’s when the divorce proceedings began.”

Since then, the divorce was finalized and Mr. Tsimhoni has remarried and moved back to Michigan “in order to be next to the kids and mend the relationship with the kids.” Ms. Tsimhoni has not remarried.

The parents had joint legal custody and their mother has physical custody. “Since then, I’ve been seeing them regularly but always in supervised visits, sometimes with a professional and sometimes with my ex-wife present. She is poisoning them and the judge realized that.”

http://observer.com/2015/07/exclusive-interview-dad-whose-kids-were-locked-up-for-not-having-lunch-with-him/

Are you saying you would just let that happen to your own children?

Let what happen?...let my kids be hauled off to make a legal point?..nope...and I wouldnt jet off to israel while they sat there for weeks either ...i'd be there every day....wouldnt you?

You would just walk away because they didn’t want to see you,

I said I would honor their wishes if they didnt want to see me.

even tho it seemed that their mother was, really, psychologically abusing them by alienating them from you, as well as by keeping them from their father (which is a bad thing for children).

I know some "fathers" who have no business around anyones children...much less their own...

This all started when the children were very young: the final separation and divorce seem to have been 6 years ago, so even the oldest was 9 at the oldest when his mother might have started all this (and he may have been a couple of years younger). So it would in no way correspond to how a child would react if the divorce occurred when he or she was a teen.

And as I said....if they were having problems..they were most likely fighting in front of the kids.

And where would the children be if the mother was put in jail?

Either the mother was in contempt or not...if she was guilty she would have been jailed and the judge obviously would have done the same thing with the kids.

And why not be placed with their father?

All their relatives are in Israel.

Not sure about that one.....I read the grandparents live in Israel...and both he mother and father are from there....but the judge ordered no one from the mothers side of the family can visit the kids either...so I dont get what that means if there arent other reletives in the US.

Also of note...the children are all US citizens.

So if the mother was put in jail, the children would be in state care anyway.

So there in effect was no reason not to jail her for contempt if the Judge could have done it.

So logically...she was not found in contempt (at least for now)...that fell upon the children for their refusal to even eat a meal with their father in the cafateria.

But it seems she may have avoided jail by changing her actions while the children did not.

And thus she is removed from the picture and no longer has any influence over the children.....the current legal battle is now between the children and their father , although I read the mothers lawyer has filed a Writ of Habeas Corpus scheduled to be heard on July 15th.

There is no evidence that the father was abusive other than the boy’s statement but there is evidence the mother was manipulating the children to believe bad things about their father.

The statement remains none the less...so he is either lying or telling the truth.

The children are continuing with the counseling so hopefully this will all be resolved.

Slight correction...the children are undergoing state ordered psychiatric therapy....will this include drugs if need be?

And the father does **not** want to see them in state custody—

Why is he in Israel instead of visiting his children every day with the councilers?????

I'm going to go right ahead and make a prediction.

His next legal move will be for full custody and the return of his children to Israel.

I bet a dollar he is meeting with lawyers there checking into his options of getting his kids back under his control.

judge said she would have done this sooner in the process except for the father’s request that it not happen.

And thus he pressed the issue into court again, knowing full that it might result in his children being removed from their mother....I guess that blows away the notion that he wasnt perfectly willing to see them put into state custody rather than have them be with their mother.

I'm not so sure he loves his kids that much or whether he is just trying to punish the mother.

Like I said.....the next legal move will tell.

I have considered that the mom is psycho.....have you considered the father is a smooth talking douchebag with a good lawyer and a Judges ear?

84 posted on 07/09/2015 9:41:39 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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