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To: JJ_Folderol
-- Fox and Hen-house syndrome in Waco. --

That was always going to be the case at grand jury. Either a police representative or the DA is, and has to be, in charge of presenting evidence to the jurors.

Only a handful of bikers were in the vicinity of the initial altercation and shooting, those bikers will be indicted/charged with various crimes of commission.

The more interesting question is whether and how the state will present evidence of conspiracy for those bikers who were running away, taking cover, etc. They were held on an unsupported conspiracy accusation in the first place. By unsupported, I mean the allegation doesn't claim those individuals had (individually) a prior agreement to rumble at Twin Peaks. The only evidence cited is wearing colors, being on the scene, and a general sense of bad blood between the gangs.

33 posted on 07/09/2015 7:22:36 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: JJ_Folderol

Oops, should have “read on” before commenting. I mistook “preside over” as being the person presenting evidence, not as a person receiving evidence.


35 posted on 07/09/2015 7:26:07 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
The only evidence cited is wearing colors, being on the scene, and a general sense of bad blood between the gangs.

In other words, free expression, lawful assembly, and something "general" that doesn't even pass the preponderance of the evidence test, let alone the beyond reasonable doubt test.


36 posted on 07/09/2015 7:28:29 AM PDT by Robert Teesdale (III% | 4GW)
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To: Cboldt

>>> That was always going to be the case at grand jury. Either a police representative or the DA is, and has to be, in charge of presenting evidence to the jurors. <<<

The point is that they’ve made a Waco Police officer the jury foreman. Who’s going to disagree with the foreman’s ‘secret inside information’ as he sits at the top of the table with his badge and gun?

I know a grand jury can indict a rock for jay-walking, but this is just over-the-top blatant in what’s supposed to be a free country that prides itself on the rule of law.


39 posted on 07/09/2015 7:33:09 AM PDT by JJ_Folderol (Diagonally parked in a parallel universe...)
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To: Cboldt

Very Few of the 177 arrested and charged are still in jail. It took an unbelievable time to get there, but if almost all are out on bail looks bad for the conspiracy angle.

This has been a total screw up from the beginning. Indicating absolute presence of Fed direction of the police. Feds are now slithering away into dark corner.

Headshake


78 posted on 07/09/2015 10:00:31 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Cboldt

Just out of curiosity, what do they charge a person with for happening to be at the coordinates of the impacts?


93 posted on 07/09/2015 1:45:39 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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