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To: TexasGator
-- There was SPECIFIC bad blood between them. --

Who is "them?" Rumbles between two gangs does not translate to "particular individual agreed with another, to rumble," and "particular individual agreed with another, to rumble" is what has to exist in order to find conspiracy.

266 posted on 07/11/2015 10:42:02 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

“Who is “them?”

Bandidos and Cossacks.

“Rumbles between two gangs does not translate to “particular individual agreed with another, to rumble,” and “particular individual agreed with another, to rumble” is what has to exist in order to find conspiracy.”

I don’t know all that the police are going to use but some key points I suspect they will use:

1. Document previous violent acts between Bandidos and Cossacks.

2. Bandido meeting was changed from Austin (Bandido stronghold) to Waco (Cossack territory).

3. This was a regional meeting which is normally attended only by bikers in the region but bikers from both sides were called upon to ride from the far corners of the state to this meeting as a show of force.


267 posted on 07/11/2015 10:50:05 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Cboldt

“and “particular individual agreed with another, to rumble” is what has to exist in order to find conspiracy.”

Actually not. Associating for the cause of criminal activities establishes a conspiracy. If one of the associating commits a crime for the furtherance of the association, then others may also be charged even if they had not conspired to that specific crime.


270 posted on 07/11/2015 10:58:21 AM PDT by TexasGator
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