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Waco police detective named foreman of grand jury that may hear Twin Peaks cases
www.wacotrib.com ^ | Wednesday, July 8, 2015 6:01 pm | TOMMY WITHERSPOON

Posted on 07/09/2015 6:19:49 AM PDT by JJ_Folderol

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To: TXnMA
I once lived in Arlington, Vermont. I would drive past the Battle Monument in Bennington, and am proud to have been able to share the sanctity of that spot with my son. Ethan Allan and the Green Mountain Boys would drink at the tavern a half block from my home.



The quietest, greenest lands are oft the deepest reservoirs of irrepressible treason, insurrection and freedom's gunfire.

Just ask the Irish.
201 posted on 07/10/2015 9:17:40 AM PDT by Robert Teesdale (III% | 4GW)
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To: TexasGator

How do you know this?


202 posted on 07/10/2015 9:27:07 AM PDT by sport
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To: Robert Teesdale

agree.

It is a calculated assault by the forces of darkness. Yes, evil exists.

I’ve been told that it is no longer relevant. That is a mistake.


203 posted on 07/10/2015 9:35:34 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Here, stepping back, I have noticed the attack on Freedom of Association/Assembly.

This is one of the obvious points that I missed. You are correct. All along this has been all about the ongoing destruction of the 1st (including these threads).

One of the governments many battles against the people and the Bill of Rights. This one was force and murder.

Thanks.
204 posted on 07/10/2015 10:08:05 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: Robert Teesdale
Good write-up Robert.

I think one thing you're missing though, is that the Powers That Be have managed, through careful indoctrination and propaganda efforts, to just about evenly split this country right in half. It's not the old north/south divide, and is not really even a rural/city split, though that is closer to the mark than most. Rather, it is a split of ideologies and worldviews. Try talking to a diehard leftist about just about anything, and you'll see that they really do not live in the same reality that you do.

To them, their world and perceptions make complete sense, just like yours do to you. Even something as basic as language has been twisted to fit the leftist agenda. We see a little bleed-over of this with made up concepts like "microagression", and "white privilege", but most of us really don't see the whole of it, unless we're unfortunate enough to be an unwilling prisoner in a leftist stronghold. Because they use and attach different meanings to common words, they will draw entirely different, and to us, non-sensical conclusions given the same set of facts, or the same description of different events.

That's one of the things that is going to cause the most problems when we truely leave the 'awkward stage', because both 'sides' see this from such grossly different perspectives. I've seen many conservatives write about the "us having all the guns" because the leftists are such ardent gun-control activists. Well, that's not really the case at all. As in so many things, what they really mean when they say they want to get guns off the street, is not that they want to be disarmed. What they really mean is they want to take guns away from the wrong people (in their mind) - mostly that's us, and minorities, because of the racism their worldview is so thoroughly steeped in.

Take a look at some "anarchist" sites, and you'll see them talking about being armed up to the teeth, and the wilder bunches are really into blowing things up. This has been true for a long time. (Weathermen anyone?)

For the establishment, things get really tricky. While the leftists will use the full power of the state to destroy any opposition to their policies, no matter how small, their more militant brethren are really more interested in chaos than anything else.  So, they'll have no problem at all with attacking infrastructure elements, and LE or military types when they can get away with it, they'd take it amiss if folks started popping off EPA, BATFags, or any of the favored stalinists agencies of the left as seen in Unintended Consequences.

Things will get right interesting when everything finally falls into the crapper. The Feral government has done a pretty good job protecting themselves so far, but when things really devolve, the video cameras they've placed everywere to monitor and control things aren't really going to be especially useful for them.

Some of this is spoken to in a vanity I posted a while back: Police and Society in America

We're in for interesting times, and I don't know how it will all shake out in the end.

205 posted on 07/10/2015 10:11:38 AM PDT by zeugma (The best defense against a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun)
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To: Robert Teesdale

Thanks for the excellent post.


206 posted on 07/10/2015 10:29:49 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: Lazamataz
TexasGator is literally a troll. I actually caught him outright trolling. He’s also obsessive-compulsive: While America collapses, his main thing is Biker threads. I think he’s gay for bikers. He got a facelift so he’d be hotter to them.

I noticed that too. Too many botulism injections.
207 posted on 07/10/2015 10:32:12 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: zeugma
Thank you. I read your Police and Society in America when it was posted here and it is well-written and correct. I agree with your conclusions and would encourage others to read it carefully.

Beyond that I will add that the conclusions you drew bespeak a fundamental appreciation of what is happening; and it permits a certain kind of communication of concept that I'd like to offer here. I'm going to be a little bit vague, and maybe a little bit esoteric, but it's my hope that you and others can perhaps read a little bit between the lines and grasp at some of the things I am saying.

The divergence of weltanschauung and its impact on literalized perceptions behind the grips of opposing spears is indeed significant, but it's not as binary as it may appear. Where ideology takes command of the language, and then constricts the capacity for effective constructs by removing nimbleness in that literalization - you have incapacity, and incapacity is an infection that can be fomented and furthered for deliberate outcomes.

More concretely, when they are limited to Newspeak they are slaves to its limitations, and they cannot think out of the box as the ability to frame language has been so restricted that creativity is dead.

Creativity is the lifeblood of insurrection, and it is the heart of successful henka. Similarly, the limited imagination of our inner city shadow governments, hammered into stagnant and rotted dialectics by the Great Society, is the single biggest collar that the State has ever clicked shut in American history.

I've got a motorcycle waiting for me, so I'll close here with a couple of thoughts:

We are caught in the gears of many different subsystems, and the grinding and shuddering of the greater rhythm has become apparent in its derangement. And as the gears mesh and turn, and as the confusing teeth of the machinery whine and spin, there comes moments where there is a sudden light through those teeth, like the parting of leaves in a forest sky that allows the sunlight through.

Sometimes that opening is where Truth can penetrate, through personal confusion. Sometimes it is the moment where, half a breath released, the sear feels pressure and breaks and the flight of intent is manifested at the far end of vision. Sometimes it is simply a pause in the chaos of a fluidic maelstrom, and there's a moment of recognition across the battlefield and two individuals stride foreward for honorable combat amidst the crashing melee.

We're at a moment like that now in America, where the sides and the men and the moments can all see each other.

I'm not going to make predictions; I'm going riding.

Shiny side up my friend.
208 posted on 07/10/2015 11:01:07 AM PDT by Robert Teesdale (III% | 4GW)
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To: wardaddy

Slapping the ‘snot’ out a fool was 100% appropriate in 54 to the ill-informed (repeating, I might add) post 40.

Idiots and fools deserve no better.

Originally I tried to help him understand the process and the significant differences between Trial Jury and Grand Jury. It did not take long to see that a fool is not interested in the facts, thus 54.


209 posted on 07/10/2015 11:39:13 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Robert Teesdale
This will probably get to you when you get back. I've got too much stuff going on through the weekend to be able to ride unfortunately.

I'll speak to a few points individually...

More concretely, when they are limited to Newspeak they are slaves to its limitations, and they cannot think out of the box as the ability to frame language has been so restricted that creativity is dead.

Agreed. If you can't say something, it makes it harder to even think the thought. It also doesn't help when the exact same sentence can have opposite meanings to two different groups. Leftists also use language to manipulate. A great example is their appropriation of the word "gay". Formerly, of course, it meant "happy, carefree, or a lightness of being". The theft of this word by the sodomites was purposefully done to alter perspections. Despite the fact that they are some of the most hateful individuals (especially filled with self-hatred), they want people to think of them as "gay", like that's a positive, cheery thing. When you accept their terms, you accept their definitions, and allow the perverted and mentally disturbed to control the dialogue.

I checked out the link for henka. The Japanese have some really interesting linguistic constructs. Do you use it in the sense of (kagyaku henka): reversible change,  (keinen henka): change over the years, or (kōzō henka): structural change?

Similarly, the limited imagination of our inner city shadow governments, hammered into stagnant and rotted dialectics by the Great Society, is the single biggest collar that the State has ever clicked shut in American history.

Agreed. These shackles are one of the reasons we see so much inner-city violence. The denziens know there is somerthing fundamentally wrong with their situation, but they fail to understand its cause, or are purposefully redirected to false constructs that channel their cognitive dissonance into channels approved of by the PTB.

And as the gears mesh and turn, and as the confusing teeth of the machinery whine and spin, there comes moments where there is a sudden light through those teeth, like the parting of leaves in a forest sky that allows the sunlight through.

Absolutely agree with this. I've seen it personally when someone has what I call a 'light bulb' moment, where the constructs they are struggling with all suddenly snap into place. It can be frightening for some people  because it can result in an extreme shift in worldview. Some folks aren't able to handle that.

Overall, I'm not optimistic about any serious structural change occuring here because of the way our society has become so carefully and finely balanced into opposing forces. And regarding, our breaking point (I am reminded of Rudyard Kipling's Hymn of the Breaking Strain), I would point out how really, really bad it got in the Soviet Union before anything really happened.

210 posted on 07/10/2015 12:11:27 PM PDT by zeugma (The best defense against a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun)
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To: X-spurt

It is getting worse by the day.

The heros:

Banditos
Hells Angels
Crips
Bloods
New Black Panthers
MS

Shame to see this support on FR


211 posted on 07/10/2015 12:12:46 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Robert Teesdale

Well stated. Actually quite succinct.


212 posted on 07/10/2015 1:00:42 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: JJ_Folderol; don-o; All
Motion Objecting to Grand Jury, in particular allowing Detective Head to be on the jury, let alone it's foreman.

In Waco biker case, making noise and news, despite the gag order - Dane Schiller, July 10, 2015. That's the item I ran into that points to the Motion to the Judge.

213 posted on 07/10/2015 1:08:43 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: TexasGator

Do you ever feel like the little Dutch boy?


214 posted on 07/10/2015 1:09:19 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Robert Teesdale

You have my expression of thanks too. Well rested indeed! Hope you had a good ride.


215 posted on 07/10/2015 1:09:50 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

This biker killed at least 43 people during his tour of duty with the Hells Angels

Yeah, and I can tell you about thousands of club members that have never committed a crime.

Generalizing, and stereotyping, is not a good way to live.


216 posted on 07/10/2015 1:37:06 PM PDT by rikkir (Anyone still believe the 8/08 Atlantic cover wasn't 100% accurate?)
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To: don-o

Glad everyone is ok.
Went through Hurricane Hugo, and a tree coming down on your house is not a fun experience.

Godspeed getting your life back together. Hope it goes well.


217 posted on 07/10/2015 1:56:08 PM PDT by rikkir (Anyone still believe the 8/08 Atlantic cover wasn't 100% accurate?)
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To: zeugma
I use the term henka somewhat colloquially, in the context of jissen gata which in itself can be difficult to share. The link is an older one, but well written and captures the correct heart of it.

Kayagku henka does apply to this situation when you consider the principle of sakka nagare (reversing the flow) for the political crisis.

These shackles are one of the reasons we see so much inner-city violence. The denziens know there is somerthing fundamentally wrong with their situation, but they fail to understand its cause, or are purposefully redirected to false constructs that channel their cognitive dissonance into channels approved of by the PTB.

Black Americans have much to be enraged about, but not in ways that they have been carefully, roughly and successfully manipulated by the collectivists to believe over generations. It is not the white man who is their enemy; it is the collectivist that finds safety in the scapegoated, swirling hatred of racial identity grievance and politics. That's a discussion for another thread; I do think that what has been done in this area by the Left is disgusting and evil. The fetid violence in the black community is akin to a caged animal chewing off its own leg, and snapping at anything that comes near the collar. There isn't an immediately obvious solution there. The horrible aspect - and the aspect amusing to the collectivists - is that that rage and sense of wrongness can be canned, steered, and employed. That is why they created it, and that is how they milk it. It is very unfortunate, and very sad.

It is also very evil. But the Left has shown that endless pits full of slaughtered millions are their currency of power. We should not, after all, be surprised that they will stoop to manufactured generational torture as well if that ends justifies those means in the pursuit of their type of gratuitous evil.

More on that later.

Overall, I'm not optimistic about any serious structural change occuring here because of the way our society has become so carefully and finely balanced into opposing forces. And regarding, our breaking point (I am reminded of Rudyard Kipling's Hymn of the Breaking Strain), I would point out how really, really bad it got in the Soviet Union before anything really happened.

The State is not in balance; it is in disorder.

Know collapse. Lead the troops. Exploit the terrain. Assuredly, study. Ceaselessly, study.

Know your enemy and master his little methods.

Best of all. stay gold out there.

Stay connected to each other.

Be not afraid to speak of what you see.

Silence is a lie to your fellow citizens and to your country.

Intimidation is not excuse for silence.

TexasGator is not intimidating.

Do you want to live forever?

Do you want America to live forever?

Then speak.

Small acts of courage accumulate. Evil is absorbed in the heart, and goes no further. It takes but one candle to light a billion minds to freedom. Be it.

Much love to my fellow Americans,

- RT "Asskiller"
218 posted on 07/10/2015 2:04:29 PM PDT by Robert Teesdale (III% | 4GW)
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To: TexasGator

Some choice words for those who founded this country:

Rebels
Rioters
Insurgents
Knaves
Bigots
Riff-Raff
Traitors
Terrorists
Smugglers
Slave Owners
Cowards
Savages
Murderers
Revolutionaries
Sons of Liberty
Yankee Doodle
Minutemen
Three Percenters

Independent people are rarely popular in high society. Tea Party, Oath Keepers, militia members, bikers, and veterans have all been singled out as “domestic concerns.” How easy it is to go along and get along.

People don’t have to be heroes to be victims of government abuse. You don’t have to agree or even associate with a particular group to stand up for their rights. This principle, once known as liberty, was originally secured by a government limited under the Constitution of a Republic historically called the United States of America.


219 posted on 07/10/2015 2:05:38 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (The last days of America will not resemble Rome, but Carthage.)
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To: Robert Teesdale
What's fascinating to me is how many "roughly" right thinking people are co-opted into (or adopt on their own) enforcement roles.

Nothing new under the sun, just fascinating to watch - especially these days with quick and widespread propagation of competing narratives relating to events.

220 posted on 07/10/2015 2:13:07 PM PDT by Cboldt
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