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Ted Cruz: Some In GOP Are For 'Amnesty' Because It's Cheap Labor
NBC News ^ | JUL 5 2015 | SHAWNA THOMAS

Posted on 07/05/2015 1:35:11 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

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To: CodeToad
Amen!
41 posted on 07/05/2015 2:06:19 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: Isara

I know. That poster and a few others jump on any thread with title words ‘ Cruz’ and ‘Immigration’ etc. and proceed to post the same garbage.


42 posted on 07/05/2015 2:06:26 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: paintriot

“All I have heard him say is secure the border then we’ll figure it out. Not bashing him at all. I was just wondering if he has mentioned his exact position.”

No, because it’s a trap. We were all tricked into believing we’d get a secure border in return for 3 million granted amnesty.

The number one priority is the border. What to do after that is off the table until the border is secure. It is a winning position - leave the left to speculate all day long on the 11 million, but without a definitive statement Ted Cruz and Donald Trump for that matter own the issue with the American people.


43 posted on 07/05/2015 2:07:26 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: paintriot

I maybe wrong but I think his position is to build a wall first

And then decide what to do with the illegals already here.


44 posted on 07/05/2015 2:07:41 PM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
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To: Hostage
From your linked FR post on the other thread:
There are today millions of human beings with genius on level to the famous names above. Ted Cruz’ modest request to increase the H1B caps for this types of people to 325,000 is nothing to what’s out there to be harvested.

Those people are the subject of the L-1 program instead. The H-1B's are basically commoditized knowledge workers (engineers, geophysicists, coders, cert-holding sysops) who are brought in to break wages of skilled workers. Often they're on contract to a white-collar meat-market like Tata International, who once got caught signing contracts with their knowledge workers who were going to H-P that amounted to indenture bonds, which have been illegal in the United States since before the Civil War. I actually don't know how that case turned out, but I'll warrant Tata and H-P aren't doing it that way any more.

45 posted on 07/05/2015 2:11:49 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: SoConPubbie
More TRUTH from the "Man with the Plan"

Ted Cruz in 2016.

46 posted on 07/05/2015 2:18:21 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: paintriot
Where is Cruz on amnesty? All I have heard him say is secure the border then we’ll figure it out. Not bashing him at all. I was just wondering if he has mentioned his exact position.

That is the exact position. Seal the border now.

Getting into all of this hypothetical quagmire about what are all of the following steps is stopping us from addressing step number one.

We all agree that the border needs to be secured. There will be some serious gnashing of teeth when we get to later steps. But it's only getting worse while we delay.

We are playing into the marxist's hands by delaying and allowing more illegals through the border.

47 posted on 07/05/2015 2:20:49 PM PDT by oldbrowser (The kangaroos have taken over the supreme court.)
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To: Isara; CodeToad
Isara is a liar.

We don't need the help nor the imported problems that come with H-1B.

All it does is reduce the wage scale for all Americans...each imported manhour is a direct cost to America's standard of living when we have 90mil unemployed.

48 posted on 07/05/2015 2:23:42 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Isara

If there are enough H1-Bs in the country now that companies like DisneyWorld and Pac Ed can use them to replace native Americans with cheaper Indian imports then there is no shortage of tech guys in the US at this point in time.


49 posted on 07/05/2015 2:27:56 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: lentulusgracchus

No. You got that backwards:

http://www.immi-usa.com/l1-versus-h1b-visas/


50 posted on 07/05/2015 2:37:06 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Mariner; CodeToad
Isara is a liar.

Beloved Mariner, may loving God be with you always! You too, codetoad!

51 posted on 07/05/2015 2:43:11 PM PDT by Isara
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To: SoConPubbie

52 posted on 07/05/2015 2:45:52 PM PDT by Bobalu (If we live to see 2017 we will be kissing the ground)
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To: SoConPubbie

He certainly isn’t afraid to speak the unvarnished truth.


53 posted on 07/05/2015 2:47:52 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: jospehm20
If there are enough H1-Bs in the country now that companies like DisneyWorld and Pac Ed can use them to replace native Americans with cheaper Indian imports then there is no shortage of tech guys in the US at this point in time.

There are always companies that abuse the system and violate the law, especially when they are in bed with the regime, Washington Cartel.

54 posted on 07/05/2015 2:49:56 PM PDT by Isara
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To: SoConPubbie

Of course NBC left out the next thing Cruz said, which is democrats want them here as welfare dependents for their votes.


55 posted on 07/05/2015 3:01:54 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: SoConPubbie

[[Ted Cruz: Some In GOP Are For ‘Amnesty’ Because It’s Cheap Labor]]

It is NOT cheap labor- ILLEGALS are NOT here to work- they are here to get a free ride- nearly 75% of immigrants, both legal and illegal (the majority being illegal) are on some type of government handout- some to the tune of nearly $45,000 (While our seniors and disabled and veterans suffer trying to get by on as little as $8000 a year)

Illegals ARE costing us hundreds of billions of dollars a year- and illegals are NOT saving us nearly that amount with hteir ‘cheap labor’ The whole ‘cheap labor’ claim is a LIE!

http://www.usillegalaliens.com/impacts_of_illegal_immigration_crime_summary.html

In recent Testimony of District Attorney John M. Morganelli before the House Subcommittee on immigration, Border, Security and Claims he stated:

“Unfortunately, the majority of illegal aliens who are here are engaged in criminal activity. Identity theft, use of fraudulent social security numbers and green cards, tax evasion, driving without licenses represent some of the crimes that are engaged in by the majority of illegal aliens on a daily basis merely to maintain and hide their illegal status.
In addition, violent crime and drug distribution and possession is also prevalent among illegal aliens. Over 25% of today’s federal prison population are illegal aliens. In some areas of the country, 12% of felonies, 25% of burglaries and 34% of thefts are committed by illegal aliens.”

•In Los Angeles, 95% of some 1,500 outstanding warrants for homicides are for illegal aliens. About 67% of the 17,000 outstanding fugitive felony warrants are for illegal aliens.
•There are currently over 400,000 unaccounted for illegal alien criminals with outstanding deportation orders. At least one fourth of these are hard core criminals.
•80,000 to 100,000 illegal aliens who have been convicted of serious crimes are walking the streets. Based on studies they will commit an average of 13 serious crimes per perpetrator.
•Illegal aliens are involved in criminal activities at a rate that is 2-5 times their representative proportion of the population.
•In 1980, our Federal and state facilities held fewer than 9,000 criminal aliens but at the end of 2003, approximately 267,000 illegal aliens were incarcerated in U.S. correctional facilities at a cost of about $6.8 billion per year.
•At least 4.5 million pounds of cocaine with a street value of at least $72 billion is smuggled across the southern border every year. ..
•56% of illegal aliens charged with a reentry offense had previously been convicted on at least 5 prior occasions.
•Illegal aliens charged with unlawful reentry had the most extensive criminal histories. 90% had been previously arrested. Of those with a prior arrest, 50% had been arrested for violent or drug-related felonies.
•Illegal aliens commit between 700,000 to 1,289,000 or more crimes per year.
•Illegal aliens commit at least 2,158 murders each year – a number that represents three times greater participation than their proportion of the population.
•Illegal alien sexual predators commit an estimated 130,909 sexual crimes each year.
•There may be as many as 240,000 illegal alien sex offenders circulating throughout America. Based on studies, they will commit an average of 8 sex crimes per perpetrator before being caught.
•Nearly 63% of illegal alien sex offenders had been deported on another offense prior to committing the sex crime.
•Only 2% of the illegal alien sex offenders in one study had no history of criminal behavior, beyond crossing the border illegally.
•In Operation Predator, ICE arrested and deported 6,085 illegal alien pedophiles. Some studies suggest each pedophile molests average of 148 children. If so, that could be as many as 900,580 victims.
•Nobody knows how big the Sex Slave problem is but it is enormous.
•The very brutal MS-13 gang has over 15,000 members and associates in at least 115 different cliques in 33 states.
•The overall financial impact of illegal alien crimes is estimated at between $14.4 and $81 billion or more per year. Factor in the crime as a result of the cocaine and other drugs being smuggled in and the number may reach $150 billion per year.

Where does Rubio come off berating Trump for citing FACTS?

[[Congressman Steve King (R-IA) estimates that illegal alien drunk drivers kill 13 Americans every day — that’s a death toll of 4,745 per year.[4]

The 23 percent criminal traffic offenders figure is only part of the overall picture. According to the Center for Immigration Studies, another 23 percent, more than 43,000 illegal aliens, were convicted of drug offenses. The violent crime category of assault, robbery, sexual assault, and family offenses comes to 12 percent. The non-violent crime grouping of larceny, fraud, and burglary totaled seven percent, and on the list goes — equaling 100 percent of illegal aliens who have been through the criminal justice system and inflicted thousands to millions in cost per alien on the system, for issues having nothing to do with their illegal entry into the country]]

http://www.constitutionparty.com/illegal-alien-crime-and-violence-by-the-numbers-were-all-victims/


56 posted on 07/05/2015 3:10:26 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bobalu
Surely you're not trying to ascribe #7 to Trump.

Trump tells TMZ, he'd create a "system of merit," saying people here illegally should have "a road to legal status" if they work hard and contribute to the country.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3304964/posts

57 posted on 07/05/2015 3:11:28 PM PDT by South40 (My candidate did NOT support Obama in 2008. Did yours?)
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To: tennmountainman

Some? .... um. What you said. 90%


58 posted on 07/05/2015 3:11:36 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: RIghtwardHo

90% are for amnesty.


59 posted on 07/05/2015 3:15:06 PM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
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To: paintriot

Too logical for you? Not enough red meat and chest thumping?


60 posted on 07/05/2015 3:16:10 PM PDT by paul544
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