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Don't Give Up On America
Townhall.com ^ | July 3, 2015 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 07/03/2015 7:57:38 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Yosemitest

Fraud won two presidential elections since there is a lawsuit preventing the GOP from objecting to voter fraud in minority districts. The judge is still alive. As long as he lives the verdict stands. You would think that the GOP would advertise this so someone could take up the cause of free and fair elections. But instead of doing right, the GOP takes in money from sucker voters, spends it on consultants and the high life and promises reform to their base while pandering to the left. The real criminals are the national GOP. They want us to die.


101 posted on 07/04/2015 7:30:39 AM PDT by x_plus_one
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To: Bryanw92
<>Our Constitution and your convention means nothing to them.<>

The groups you cite will not be at the convention.

Recall the dozens of states that opposed Obamacare, his despotic/executive amnesty, internet takeover and filed suit to stop him. Sixty-six of ninety-nine state houses are not in democrat hands.

There is clearly a building wave of resistance to tyranny.

History will not look kindly on a people who quietly walked into slavery.

<>It is equally silly to think that a convention would do anything but increase the power of the tyranny.<>

Scotus and El Presidente make the laws. The modern purpose of congress is to either rubber stamp their diktats or not make a fuss over them. This trend will continue until it is stopped. We must take advantage of Article V now before the police state snuffs out our ability to peacefully restore freedom.

Never, in any process designed to create or amend a government, such as parliament in 1688, the thirteen state constitutional conventions beginning in 1776, nor the federal convention of 1787, did any people EVER set themselves up to be slaves. Go back further and you'll find that the Roman Republic amended itself often enough to last 450 years. It did so not by declaring rights on paper, but rather by setting up institutions whose natural, structural interests tended to secure the liberty of the people.

Structure is everything. The progs know this. It is why the 17A was pushed so hard by them. Overnight we went from a mixed federal/democratic republic to an illogical democratic scheme set atop a federal/democratic constitution. Progs only know how to destroy, and the keystone to their destruction is the 17A.

102 posted on 07/04/2015 7:32:10 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: antidisestablishment
What sorts of conventions? Party conventions? If so, there is no comparison. To the extent we have so little confidence in state government, it is largely because they have not been challenged to higher ends.

From post #102:

Never, in any process designed to create or amend a government, such as parliament in 1688, the thirteen state constitutional conventions beginning in 1776, nor the federal convention of 1787, did any people EVER set themselves up to be slaves. Go back further and you'll find that the Roman Republic amended itself often enough to last 450 years. It did so not by declaring rights on paper, but rather by setting up institutions whose natural, structural interests tended to secure the liberty of the people.

Article V opponents equate a state amendment convention with our corrupted congress, a congress in which our freedoms and rights are easily traded away today for money, media support, and reelection tomorrow.

They are wrong. Article V opponents are stuck in static analysis.

Few people are not shaped by the institutions in which they participate. Without the federal convention of 1787, most of the delegates to it would be unknown to us. Not all were by any means virtuous, but in convention they set regional and personal interests aside to design good government. The 2015 congressman who would sell the rights of millions today would never think of harming his family. Michele Bachmann was run out of congress for being virtuous in a corrupt institution; she refused to conform. Had she joined the sleaze and venality that typifies congress, she could be there today. What I describe is identical to the behavioral difference between men in strip clubs and church.

The states will send serious men/women of character and judgment armed with commissions to promote their state supported amendments. Delegates to an amendment convention will be unconcerned with that which drives congress: money, personal power, and reelection will not be their focus or interest.

We can have every expectation that state delegates will rise to the occasion. They will understand the gravity of their assignment and conduct themselves in a manner precisely opposite that of congress.

103 posted on 07/04/2015 7:50:44 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Jacquerie

>>The groups you cite will not be at the convention.

Then it is useless. It is a bunch of people who agree with each other talking—and since you are inviting only conservatives, it will be mostly argument on who is the “purest” conservative. If it had any power, then it would create its own tyranny by excluding people who don’t agree.


104 posted on 07/04/2015 8:11:09 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: x_plus_one
Just keep voting AGAINST "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS", even in the General Election, and voting FOR HARD-LINED CONSERVATIVES.
Don't fall for PRETENDERS !
We want THEM TO DIE !

105 posted on 07/04/2015 11:02:34 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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