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Donald Trump A Trojan Horse To Knock Out All Other Republicans But Jeb Bush?

Posted on 07/03/2015 6:03:04 AM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: ClearCase_guy

Well said.


81 posted on 07/03/2015 9:05:56 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Ohioan

OK fine. He can run only the executive branch period meaning he won’t make many changes requiring politics. He might tighten border security but there won’t be a wall for example. He can’t do much about the budget which would require politics. Why give him the job? He won’t change much just be a good executive manager.


82 posted on 07/03/2015 9:08:15 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: odawg
What has he said that is not true? How is what he saying diminishing conservatives, other than exposing their timidity. Even Rich Lowery at National Review, even Rich Lowery, says he is right about Mexico sending their worst.

It's not that what he said isn't true or that I disagree with his position on the contrary stopping illegals is a primary issue for me. But having an obnoxious character like Trump with his high negatives makes it a terrible idea to allow him to be the poster boy for this cause. It allows his image to project onto the cause and tarnishing it imo. And the media will just use him to further demonize the cause, conflating this obnoxious jerk with everything anti-illegals. No good will come of it in the end,

83 posted on 07/03/2015 9:20:50 AM PDT by jimwatx
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To: knarf
I’m not sure what to make of your reply except ... do you mean two oddballs vieing for the same position ?

Not at all, knarf. It would be a great contrast in philosophy, personal achievement, job creation, you-didn't-build-that, which will expand government, debt, outsider v inside the government, etc., etc.

84 posted on 07/03/2015 9:27:07 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: knarf

Perot was hard to figure out but I should have realized since Ross Perot’s company computerized Medicare records in the 1960’s the payoff from the Clinton’s was computerization of Hillarycare records.

What’s the payoff for Trump may be a question to ask?

Two things I know. One, I don’t support Trump but Two I do support his freedom of speech which has been trampled on by the corporate elites in recent days.


85 posted on 07/03/2015 10:11:17 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Enlightened1

What would be Trump’s motivation to participate is such a scheme?


86 posted on 07/03/2015 10:15:50 AM PDT by matt1234 (Note to GOPe lurkers: I and thousands like me will NEVER vote for Jeb Bush)
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To: Nextrush

Yes, they are trampling on his freedom of speech.

The more they do that, the higher he will rise.

Americans are tired of the thought police.

Americans are tired of getting a boot on the neck for standing for their country.

The average American can’t fight back like Trump can.

I don’t know if he’s sincere or just helping someone else.

He sure is taking financial hits over this though.

To be doing this and taking such financial hits what’s the payoff?

Wouldn’t it have to be huge to make up for the grief he’s gotten?

The average American who is feeling ripped off and raped by our so-called “representatives” in government may be feeling a bit more empowered through the voice of Donald Trump.

Is that the real reason that the elite are on a mission to destroy him and his message?

IMO, not only are they afraid of Trump, they are also very afraid of US!

That is why they are so desperate to divide and disarm US.


87 posted on 07/03/2015 10:35:13 AM PDT by Califreak (Hope and Che'nge is killing U.S./CDC=Contagion Distribution Center)
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To: Enlightened1

That’s just nonsense..

You will see....as this moves along that Trump may well take some votes from some republican candidates, he won’t be taking them from a conservative and that is just fine with me..


88 posted on 07/03/2015 10:37:55 AM PDT by Cold Heat ("In the last several elections we have not won the argument. We have not even made the argument.")
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To: Califreak

I’m a bit frustrated by it all, but real and meaningful resistance takes more than one angry man speaking bluntly and stirring up the hornets nest.

Peaceful non-violent resistance is a tough and tall order even with all the good intentions and spirit, it will probably lead to violence like the racial protests in the 1960’s.

Non-violent resistance must begin with the notion that the other side must be the first to use violence.

MLK calculated rightly that Bull Connor was crazy enough to use force against the civil rights protestors that would make Connor look bad and MLK and his protestors the victims of his violent tactics.

MLK deliberately picked Birmingham as a protest site in 1963 and he did it with only a few trusted aides knowing because MLK knew his movement was infiltrated with informants-spies.

Unfortunately, after the 1963 peaceful Birmingham protests violence erupted across the country.

I posted more thoughts along this line the other day.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3305590/posts


89 posted on 07/03/2015 10:48:33 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: jimwatx

“And the media will just use him to further demonize the cause.”

The media will pick apart and try to demonize anyone the conservatives put forward. The same things the media says about Trump are about the same things they ridiculed Sarah Palin for - stupid, ignorant, loose cannon, no experience, not vetted, etc.


90 posted on 07/03/2015 10:51:32 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Nextrush

What if they think this one man could actually get that ball to roll though?

It’s possible.

And they wouldn’t want that, now would they?


91 posted on 07/03/2015 10:51:56 AM PDT by Califreak (Hope and Che'nge is killing U.S./CDC=Contagion Distribution Center)
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To: Califreak

I like to believe a bit in teamwork.

We need an “army” so to speak and ‘an army is a team’ is General George S. Patton put it.

“We the People” is how the US Constitution says it.

I would put deep faith in my “Creator” as the Declaration of Independence states.

But turning human beings into ‘gods’ who will deliver from evil is a bit much for me.

One problem is my life among other things has been ‘having other gods instead of God’.

I and other like minded folks have to be willing to put things on the line like the folks did in 1776.

There was a commitment of ‘lives, fortunes and sacred honor’.

The problem with grassroots folks is evident in putting one person in (Reagan) or one party (Republican) into office and thinking it was over.

Bad things have been happening for decades and it only gets worse, that’s for sure.

Anger and rage plus an election campaign is not the end all and be all of resistance in these times, we need discipline and humility and if a million of us could enough of that to show up in one place and not be moved unless we were forcibly removed, things might begin to change.


92 posted on 07/03/2015 1:51:16 PM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Nextrush

Turning people into God’s?

Huh?

Where did that come from?


93 posted on 07/03/2015 1:56:23 PM PDT by Califreak (Hope and Che'nge is killing U.S./CDC=Contagion Distribution Center)
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To: Califreak

Its amazing how much mania can be stirred up for things like sports in this country.

Faith in people and political parties and so on.

I’m a drunk currently sober but with lots of experience living in fantasy and its time to live in reality.

Defying the “world order” like the elected government in Greece is doing can be pretty tough.


94 posted on 07/03/2015 2:04:43 PM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: matt1234

Trump left the GOP, he became a democrat in 2001 to 2009.
The party of Al Gore, and Hillary, and John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid, Ted Kennedy and Barack Obama, and tells us 2 weeks ago that his favorite president is Bill Clinton, and he has supported Hillary.

So what could his motivation be?


95 posted on 07/03/2015 4:46:00 PM PDT by ansel12 (libertarians have always been for gay marriage and polygamy, gay Scout leaders, gay military.)
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To: SunkenCiv
At best, [Trump will] wind up VP running mate.

That's really funny. Could you imagine Trump as a VP?

Now imagine the President stupid enough to put him on the ticket.

96 posted on 07/04/2015 6:28:32 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: bkepley

I knew from the moment I saw you that you were an a-hole.


97 posted on 07/06/2015 4:58:25 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The new GOP slogan: "Vote for us!!! We are exactly the same as the Democrats !!!")
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To: bkepley

You are the biggest a-hole on this site.


98 posted on 07/06/2015 5:00:21 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The new GOP slogan: "Vote for us!!! We are exactly the same as the Democrats !!!")
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