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NASCAR to fans: No more Confederate flags at our races, okay? [More Capitulation]
Hotair ^ | 07/02/2015 | AllahPundit

Posted on 07/02/2015 1:55:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

If we’re going to purge “The Dukes of Hazzard,” we might as well get Confederate flags out of American car culture entirely, I guess.

For once, I think this is more than mindless corporate piggybacking on a social trend. According to a study done last year, NASCAR has a whiter audience than any other major American sport. Yes, really: At 94 percent, it’s even whiter than the NHL’s (slightly) and the PGA’s. Having the rebel flag in the infield won’t help change that.

“As members of the NASCAR industry, we join NASCAR in the desire to make our events among the most fan-friendly, welcoming environments in all of sports and entertainment.

“To do that, we are asking our fans and partners to join us in a renewed effort to create an all-inclusive, even more welcoming atmosphere for all who attend our events. This will include the request to refrain from displaying the Confederate Flag at our facilities and NASCAR events.

“We are committed to providing a welcoming atmosphere free of offensive symbols. This is an opportunity for NASCAR Nation to demonstrate its sense of mutual respect and acceptance for all who attend our events while collectively sharing the tremendous experience of NASCAR racing.”

The flag’s not banned outright but Daytona’s offering fans the Stars and Stripes this weekend in exchange for whatever flag they might happen to bring to the track. Given the scope of the overreaction these past two weeks, I wonder how many will bring Confederate flags anyway out of pure defiance.

Speaking of which, new from CNN:

The poll shows that 57% of Americans see the flag more as a symbol of Southern pride than as a symbol of racism, about the same as in 2000 when 59% said they viewed it as a symbol of pride. Opinions of the flag are sharply divided by race, and among whites, views are split by education.

Among African-Americans, 72% see the Confederate flag as a symbol of racism, just 25% of whites agree. In the South, the racial divide is even broader. While 75% of Southern whites describe the flag as a symbol of pride and 18% call it a symbol of racism, those figures are almost exactly reversed among Southern African-Americans, with just 11% seeing it as a sign of pride and 75% viewing it as a symbol of racism.

Among whites, there’s a sharp divide by education, and those with more formal education are less apt to see the flag as a symbol of pride. Among whites with a college degree, 51% say it’s a symbol of pride, 41% one of racism. Among those whites who do not have a college degree, 73% say it’s a sign of Southern pride, 18% racism.

That’s strikingly different from what YouGov found when they polled people on the flag last week. In that case, just 35 percent said the flag was a symbol of southern pride versus 41 percent who said it was a symbol of racism. Maybe anti-flag fever has cooled off or a backlash has begun in response to the dumber attempts to suppress the image, like in the “Dukes of Hazzard” case. Interestingly, despite the sharp divergence between CNN and YouGov on what the flag symbolizes, opposition to flying the flag on government property is roughly consistent in both polls. YouGov found that 65 percent oppose displaying the flag on government property; CNN has it at 55 percent. Both polls also found wide opposition to renaming streets that are named after famous Confederates, with even blacks splitting 33/63 against in CNN’s survey. (Removing tributes to Confederate soldiers from public places was a closer question, with blacks dividing 49/50 while whites divide 21/75.) The key division on each question, though, is less a matter of white and black than Democratic and Republican. For instance, whites narrowly support removing the rebel flag from government property, 50/47, but Democrats support it enthusiastically at 70/28 while Republicans oppose it strongly at 39/60. Whites also narrowly back private companies who choose not to manufacture or sell Confederate flag items, 49/47, but Democrats support them heavily at 62/36 while Republicans oppose them decisively at 40/56. Even the basic question of whether the flag is more a symbol of southern pride or racism splits sharply on partisan lines. Democrats say it’s racism to the tune of 34/58. Republicans say southern pride, 77/14.

One interesting wrinkle: Blacks overwhelmingly say that the flag is a symbol of racism, at 17/72, but among nonwhite voters generally the split is much narrower at 40/46. Who are the nonwhite voters who overwhelmingly think the flag is more a symbol of southern pride, offsetting the numbers among blacks? There are no crosstabs for Latinos here but I assume they’re the ones.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: confederateflag; corporateliberalism; lookasquirrel; nascar; obamasracewar; obamunism
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To: SeekAndFind

Gun buyback while they’re at it?
So sick of this crap!


21 posted on 07/02/2015 2:14:31 PM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: SeekAndFind
See ya later NASCAR. Denying your heritage is wrong.

Thanks for the memories.

22 posted on 07/02/2015 2:14:55 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I drove on I-20W by the Talladega Superspeedway on an April Sunday afternoon in 2002 during a race. Had the interstate to my self. Looked to my left at the campgrounds surrounding the race track. There were more Confederate flags flying than actually existed between 1861-1865.


23 posted on 07/02/2015 2:16:28 PM PDT by MacNaughton (" ...it is better to die on the losing side than to live under Communism." Whitaker Chambers)
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To: SeekAndFind
Next they'll be banning the "N" word from Rap music sung by white musicians
24 posted on 07/02/2015 2:16:29 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bring 2!!


25 posted on 07/02/2015 2:17:58 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (s)
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To: SeekAndFind

OK, I understand the angst about how the Confederate Flag has been murdered by PC. I understand people’s pride in the ancestors’ courage, etc., and I love tradition myself.

What I don’t understand is why people are so in a tizzy about a Democrat flag? The Democrats invented the Confederacy, they were for slavery, a Democrat designed the flag at the center of this controversy, Democrats invented the KKK, Democrats invented Jim Crow laws and Democrats fought the civil rights laws through the mid-1960s...flying the Confederate flag the whole time. So why are a bunch of conservatives (most of whom are, I presume, Republican) so upset? I ask this question in all sincerity, without trying to insult anyone, but merely trying to get people to think?

Also, I’d like to get the national conversation turned toward the FACT that the Dems are the party of slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow and segregation, and that the Republicans are the pro-civil rights abolitionists. You all want to preserve history, in the form of a flag? Better to preserve the accurate record of the behavior of an entire political party that oppressed a race and now denies it.


26 posted on 07/02/2015 2:23:43 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: SeekAndFind

Seriously, alienate your primary fan base? What PC capitulating idiots they are.


27 posted on 07/02/2015 2:23:55 PM PDT by joebobsr
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To: SeekAndFind

Soon they’ll ask everyone not to bring an American flag in.


28 posted on 07/02/2015 2:24:53 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Based on the comments on NASCAR's facebook page it looks like they've got a problem.

I notice that, locally, Stripes Convenience Stores just switched over their signage to Sunoco, Official Fuel of NASCAR. I guess I'll be buying my gas elsewhere.

29 posted on 07/02/2015 2:28:21 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: SeekAndFind
Actually the way I'm reading it NASCAR just seems to be playing CYA (probably at the advice of their marketing team or lawyers). They are essentially saying they don't want the flag at their events, but then they say they are not going to enforce a ban and are only asking people to refrain from flying it. This just gives them an out the next time some race-baiter shows a picture of a bunch of confederate flags at a NASCAR event, they can shrug and say, “Hey, we have a firm policy against it, don't blame us.”
30 posted on 07/02/2015 2:32:20 PM PDT by apillar
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To: SeekAndFind

I am struggling in vain to understand why there is no pushback on this issue. I don’t get it.

It’s the same here in Virginia. Terry McAuliffe said no more flag decals on license plates for Sons of Confederate Veterans; whoever has one must send it back.

I would say come and take it at gunpoint if you can.


31 posted on 07/02/2015 2:34:35 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: Jack Hydrazine
OR ask to change the American Flag. No..... they wouldn't do that would they ?

U.S. Citizens Sign Petition to Ban the American Flag & Issue a New Design for the New World Order

32 posted on 07/02/2015 2:36:19 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Eleven more races in the South on the schedule. Didn’t realize NBC has the broadcast rights. You just know they will have all kinds of new and creative camera angles to not show the crowd and the Confederate Flag.


33 posted on 07/02/2015 2:38:03 PM PDT by DAC21 (.z)
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To: SeekAndFind

My sense is that stock car fans have always seen themselves as rebels. So, I think this is a bad decision by NASCAR.


34 posted on 07/02/2015 2:39:17 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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To: Ancesthntr

If you think it’s just about the flag, you’re sorely mistaken.

The left is just starting with the South; they’ve always despised us as the last bastion of conservatism and traditional values.

Do you really think they’ll stop with us? They won’t. They will just move on to their next target until our white Anglo-Saxon roots are effectively wiped from the record.

They already want statues of George Washington pulled down, and the Jefferson Memorial.

Wake up.


35 posted on 07/02/2015 2:40:13 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: Ancesthntr

The Confederate flag is viewed today as a symbol of rebellion against the dictatorship of Washington,D.C. elitists ,which is why many people display it and why the big government types hate it. The idea of telling the central government to “leave us alone” is very appealing to most self-reliant people. Those people who have become accustomed to the federal handouts and promotions based on race rather than ability LOVE the big daddy in Washington..


36 posted on 07/02/2015 2:43:04 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey NASCAR, how many black drivers do you have again? NASCAR is RACE-IST!


37 posted on 07/02/2015 2:44:16 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: CatherineofAragon
EVERYONE SHOULD GO TO THE NEXT NASCAR RACE, WITH A CONFEDERATE FLAG READY TO UNFURL AND FLY IN THE STANDS!
38 posted on 07/02/2015 2:45:32 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: SeekAndFind

This is gonna backfire on them.


39 posted on 07/02/2015 2:46:08 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: UCANSEE2

Wow, if somebody comes to my house and asks me to sign a petition banning anything but the dingleberries that are the American left that person will be crawling out of my yard.


40 posted on 07/02/2015 2:47:40 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Hell yes I'm drunk, did you think I was a stunt driver?)
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