Posted on 06/30/2015 6:52:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
I join THE CHIEF JUSTICEs opinion in full. I write separately to call attention to this Courts threat to American democracy.
The substance of todays decree is not of immense personal importance to me. The law can recognize as marriage whatever sexual attachments and living arrangements it wishes, and can accord them favorable civil consequences, from tax treatment to rights of inheritance.
Those civil consequencesand the public approval that conferring the name of marriage evidencescan perhaps have adverse social effects, but no more adverse than the effects of many other controversial laws. So it is not of special importance to me what the law says about marriage. It is of overwhelming importance, however, who it is that rules me. Todays decree says that my Ruler, and the Ruler of 320 million Americans coast-to-coast, is a majority of the nine lawyers on the Supreme Court. The opinion in these cases is the furthest extension in fact and the furthest extension one can even imagineof the Courts claimed power to create liberties that the Constitution and its Amendments neglect to mention. This practice of constitutional revision by an unelected committee of nine, always accompanied (as it is today) by extravagant praise of liberty, robs the People of the most important liberty they asserted in the Declaration of Independence and won in the Revolution of 1776: the freedom to govern themselves.
Until the courts put a stop to it, public debate over same-sex marriage displayed American democracy at its best. Individuals on both sides of the issue passionately, but respectfully, attempted to persuade their fellow citizens to accept their views. Americans considered the arguments and put the question to a vote. The electorates of 11 States, either directly or through their representatives, chose to expand the traditional definition of marriage. Many more decided not to.1 Win or lose, advocates for both sides continued pressing their cases, secure in the knowledge that an electoral loss can be negated by a later electoral win. That is exactly how our system of government is supposed to work.
The Constitution places some constraints on self-rule constraints adopted by the People themselves when they ratified the Constitution and its Amendments. Forbidden are laws impairing the Obligation of Contracts, denying Full Faith and Credit to the public Acts of other States, prohibiting the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing the right to keep and bear arms, authorizing unreasonable searches and seizures, and so forth. Aside from these limitations, those powers reserved to the States respectively, or to the people can be exercised as the States or the People desire. These cases ask us to decide whether the Fourteenth Amendment contains a limitation that requires the States to license and recognize marriages between two people of the same sex. Does it remove that issue from the political process?
Of course not. It would be surprising to find a prescription regarding marriage in the Federal Constitution since, as the author of todays opinion reminded us only two years ago (in an opinion joined by the same Justices who join him today):
[R]egulation of domestic relations is an area that has long been regarded as a virtually exclusive province of the States.
[T]he Federal Government, through our history, has deferred to state-law policy decisions with respect to domestic relations.
But we need not speculate. When the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified in 1868, every State limited marriage to one man and one woman, and no one doubted the constitutionality of doing so. That resolves these cases. When it comes to determining the meaning of a vague constitutional provisionsuch as due process of law or equal protection of the lawsit is unquestionable that the People who ratified that provision did not understand it to prohibit a practice that remained both universal and uncontroversial in the years after ratification. We have no basis for striking down a practice that is not expressly prohibited by the Fourteenth Amendments text, and that bears the endorsement of a long tradition of open, widespread, and unchallenged use dating back to the Amendments ratification. Since there is no doubt whatever that the People never decided to prohibit the limitation of marriage to opposite-sex couples, the public debate over same-sex marriage must be allowed to continue.
But the Court ends this debate, in an opinion lacking even a thin veneer of law. Buried beneath the mummeries and straining-to-be-memorable passages of the opinion is a candid and startling assertion: No matter what it was the People ratified, the Fourteenth Amendment protects those rights that the Judiciary, in its reasoned judgment, thinks the Fourteenth Amendment ought to protect. That is so because [t]he generations that wrote and ratified the Bill of Rights and the Fourteenth Amendment did not presume to know the extent of freedom in all of its dimensions . . . . One would think that sentence would continue: . . . and therefore they provided for a means by which the People could amend the Constitution, or perhaps . . . and therefore they left the creation of additional liberties, such as the freedom to marry someone of the same sex, to the People, through the never-ending process of legislation. But no. What logically follows, in the majoritys judge-empowering estimation, is: and so they entrusted to future generations a charter protecting the right of all persons to enjoy liberty as we learn its meaning. The we, needless to say, is the nine of us. History and tradition guide and discipline [our] inquiry but do not set its outer boundaries. Thus, rather than focusing on the Peoples understanding of libertyat the time of ratification or even todaythe majority focuses on four principles and traditions that, in the majoritys view, prohibit States from defining marriage as an institution consisting of one man and one woman.
This is a naked judicial claim to legislativeindeed, super-legislativepower; a claim fundamentally at odds with our system of government. Except as limited by a constitutional prohibition agreed to by the People, the States are free to adopt whatever laws they like, even those that offend the esteemed Justices reasoned judgment. A system of government that makes the People subordinate to a committee of nine unelected lawyers does not deserve to be called a democracy.
Judges are selected precisely for their skill as lawyers; whether they reflect the policy views of a particular constituency is not (or should not be) relevant. Not surprisingly then, the Federal Judiciary is hardly a cross-section of America. Take, for example, this Court, which consists of only nine men and women, all of them successful lawyers who studied at Harvard or Yale Law School. Four of the nine are natives of New York City. Eight of them grew up in east- and west-coast States. Only one hails from the vast expanse in-between. Not a single Southwesterner or even, to tell the truth, a genuine Westerner (California does not count). Not a single evangelical Christian (a group that comprises about one quarter of Americans), or even a Protestant of any denomination. The strikingly unrepresentative character of the body voting on todays social upheaval would be irrelevant if they were functioning as judges, answering the legal question whether the American people had ever ratified a constitutional provision that was understood to proscribe the traditional definition of marriage. But of course the Justices in todays majority are not voting on that basis; they say they are not. And to allow the policy question of same-sex marriage to be considered and resolved by a select, patrician, highly unrepresentative panel of nine is to violate a principle even more fundamental than no taxation without representation: no social transformation without representation.
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But what really astounds is the hubris reflected in todays judicial Putsch. The five Justices who compose todays majority are entirely comfortable concluding that every State violated the Constitution for all of the 135 years between the Fourteenth Amendments ratification and Massachusetts permitting of same-sex marriages in 2003. They have discovered in the Fourteenth Amendment a fundamental right overlooked by every person alive at the time of ratification, and almost everyone else in the time since. They see what lesser legal minds minds like Thomas Cooley, John Marshall Harlan, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., Learned Hand, Louis Brandeis, William Howard Taft, Benjamin Cardozo, Hugo Black, Felix Frankfurter, Robert Jackson, and Henry Friendly could not. They are certain that the People ratified the Fourteenth Amendment to bestow on them the power to remove questions from the democratic process when that is called for by their reasoned judgment. These Justices know that limiting marriage to one man and one woman is contrary to reason; they know that an institution as old as government itself, and accepted by every nation in history until 15 years ago, cannot possibly be supported by anything other than ignorance or bigotry. And they are willing to say that any citizen who does not agree with that, who adheres to what was, until 15 years ago, the unanimous judgment of all generations and all societies, stands against the Constitution.
The opinion is couched in a style that is as pretentious as its content is egotistic. It is one thing for separate concurring or dissenting opinions to contain extravagances, even silly extravagances, of thought and expression; it is something else for the official opinion of the Court to do so. Of course the opinions showy profundities are often profoundly incoherent. The nature of marriage is that, through its enduring bond, two persons together can find other freedoms, such as expression, intimacy, and spirituality. (Really? Who ever thought that intimacy and spirituality [whatever that means] were freedoms? And if intimacy is, one would think Freedom of Intimacy is abridged rather than expanded by marriage. Ask the nearest hippie. Expression, sure enough, is a freedom, but anyone in a long-lasting marriage will attest that that happy state constricts, rather than expands, what one can prudently say.) Rights, we are told, can rise . . . from a better informed understanding of how constitutional imperatives define a liberty that remains urgent in our own era. (Huh? How can a better informed understanding of how constitutional imperatives [whatever that means] define [whatever that means] an urgent liberty [never mind], give birth to a right?) And we are told that, [i]n any particular case, either the Equal Protection or Due Process Clause may be thought to capture the essence of [a] right in a more accurate and comprehensive way, than the other, even as the two Clauses may converge in the identification and definition of the right. (What say? What possible essence does substantive due process capture in an accurate and comprehensive way? It stands for nothing whatever, except those freedoms and entitlements that this Court really likes. And the Equal Protection Clause, as employed today, identifies nothing except a difference in treatment that this Court really dislikes. Hardly a distillation of essence. If the opinion is correct that the two clauses converge in the identification and definition of [a] right, that is only because the majoritys likes and dislikes are predictably compatible.) I could go on. The world does not expect logic and precision in poetry or inspirational pop philosophy; it demands them in the law. The stuff contained in todays opinion has to diminish this Courts reputation for clear thinking and sober analysis.
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Hubris is sometimes defined as oerweening pride; and pride, we know, goeth before a fall. The Judiciary is the least dangerous of the federal branches because it has neither Force nor Will, but merely judgment; and must ultimately depend upon the aid of the executive arm and the States, even for the efficacy of its judgments. With each decision of ours that takes from the People a question properly left to themwith each decision that is unabashedly based not on law, but on the reasoned judgment of a bare majority of this Courtwe move one step closer to being reminded of our impotence.
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The last sentence may as well be a prophecy.
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Remember this Supreme Court fiasco a few months ago? Obama and his people told everyone, like tv commentators, and anyone else who would listen, that the penalty in ObamaCare was NOT tax.
Obama and Pelosi were no fools. They knew that if they mentioned the word '"TAX" in the same breath with the word 'OBAMACARE" , the American voter would revolt, and OBAMACARE would never have passed. NOT A TAX! NOT A TAX! NOT A TAX! Shouted Obama people!
But what did justice Roberts rule: He said it was indeed a tax! He saved OBAMA CARE! He performed some legal gymnastics and said the opposite of what Obama and his people and Pelosi had said over and over!
Yes, the Supreme Court is spinning out of control.
1. Separation of 3 powers: I believe in this system, but when one power suddenly grabs power than it is NOT supposed to have, and weakens the power of the other two branches of government, then something is terribly wrong.
2. Here we have just 9 persons flexing power far beyond the power that they were given in the beginning by the founding fathers---for instance, like power to make laws when they are not supposed to do so---so that now in 2015 we suddenly have a 9 person Supreme Court that abuses its power that goes way beyond the concept of the separation,equality, and balance of the 3 branches of the federal government.
3. To me, it is downright obscene for 300,000,000 Americans to sit around anxiously and seemingly forever to learn when 9 people---several of whom are obviously very elderly and physically and mentally weak---will decide what a law means or does not mean, a decision that could drastically change forever the lives of generations of Americans to come.
4. Constitution Amendment: I say we need a Constitution Amendment immediately to reduce the abuse of power of this group of just 9 people, who hold 300,000,000 helpless Americans hostages by grabbing American private parts, while on the other hand, there is not one thing that any of those 300,000,000 Americans can do about it but cry a lot.
5. Here is my suggestion for an Amendment: A Supreme Court decision may be overturned by a vote of 2/3 vote of both the House of Representatives and the Senate.
6. As I said earlier, it is obscene and sick that a group of just 9 persons can make legal decisions---many just 5 to 4 and 6 to 3---that can dramatically change the lives of 300,000,000 Americans for generations to come, and they don't have to be accountable to anyone. Sad.
7. Yes, the Supreme Court has suddenly spun out of control, and we Americans become angrier and angrier with each passing day as we try to live under such abuse of power.
8. If you have a suggestion for a Supreme Court Constitution Amendment, please let us know.
Well said. Seems the court is drunk on power and is accountable to no one and nothing can reign this beast in now. The libs have the country they want, with all the madness, chaos, and disintegration of civil society that comes with the will to power.
"But what really astounds is the hubris reflected in todays judicial Putsch."
Merriam-Webster defines putsch: "a secretly plotted and suddenly executed attempt to overthrow a government"
The strategy of first destroying middle-class morality and other norms seems to have worked better than imposing economic dictatorship first.
Scalia right about Court as ruler. Scalia stupid about not caring about substantive holding
Is this the sentence you are referring to?
"What possible essence does substantive due process capture in an accurate and comprehensive way? It stands for nothing whatever, except those freedoms and entitlements that this Court really likes. "Does not sound like he doesn't care; but rather he is mocking the majority for their having altered its true intent.
When I worked as a consultant, one of the most common problems we found was NOT that the processes and policies in place needed to be changed. Our most common found problem was that the existing policies and procedures needed to be followed. We found that over the years, usually for reasons completely unrelated to the actual process, things were changed. The most common reason was that the original process inhibited the actions of one or two employees to either do what they wanted, or to avoid contact with people they did not like.
The Constitution and the Supreme Court do not need to be changed (at least not in the way you describe.) They need to be followed and the checks and balances established 200 years ago need to be followed.
I don’t know, it would take time for a decision by the supreme court to actually get to congress, and the damage could be done by then. Additionally, congress often has issues getting a 2/3 majority on anything, meaning any bad legislation passed by the SC would stay due to congressional deadlock.
A better idea would to mandate that any changes to current law made by a supreme court decision would have to be approved by the legislative before being implemented. In this scenario the deadlock is put to use making legislative action from the bench almost impossible.
Also this will mean that each branch is fulfilling it’s role: congress will actually be in control of legislative action.
There are already laws in place whereby Congress can overrule a SCOTUS decision by a given margin, and there is also the impeachment option for unruly judges. The problem is that there is an entrenched brainwashing now in effect that has been carefully encultured by Socialist International since the Wilson Administration to overthrow the fundamental understanding of freedom, with the express purpose of overthrowing the U.S. Constitution, only "making haste slowly", as was the motto of the Fabian Socialists.
Even the law schools have been carefully infiltrated with anti-Christian, anti-federalist activists since at least the close of WW2, so that generations of lawyers in this country do not see their purpose as upholding the Constitution, but destroying its meaning. People like Ted Cruz (Harvard Law grad) are the great exception to the rule.
There is no magic bullet here; nevertheless, conservatives must not give up. I urge everyone reading here to learn about and make a donation to one of the conservative legal foundations that have been effective in winning lawsuits on behalf of Christians against the evil works of the ACLU and other "rights" activists. These groups depend on contributions to continue the fight:
Alliance Defending Freedom Filed opening brief in an Obamacare case at Supreme Court, many other cases in the culture wars.
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Perhaps the court should require 6 of 9 for a decision to be binding. Or, for Trek fans, perhaps 7 of 9 would be better.
I’ve been trying to find some pearl in this bucket of horse manure from the SCROTUM. All I can find is a vague hope that the a$$holes (because anyone who can twist words to have no meaning deserve no respect) who made this decision may have painted themselves into a corner.
It is a dim hope, but think for a minute. The a$$holes claim that the Fourteenth Amendment says you cannot discriminate against someone based on sexual orientation. If that is true, then I cannot be discriminated against based on my heterosexuality. If I am discriminated against because I am heterosexual and my rights are not protected, then I have no rights. THAT constitutes slavery; WHICH IS WHAT THE FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT EXPRESSLY FORBIDS.
Am I wrong in my logic?
[[As Justice Scalia pointed out, they were able to find the right to marriage in the 14th Amendment when lesser justices of the past were unable to do so.]]
I read Kennedy’s opinion on the matter and it is asinine! There was NOTHING in Kennedy’s statement that is truthful- He is saying people ‘have a right to marry’ because they ‘might wake up alone and lonely’- and that is basically all he used to justify his decision- There is NOTHING I nthe 14’th amendment that provides for marriage simply because someone m,ight be lonely’ nor is there anything in it that provides marriage for people who engage in the ABOMINAtIONS of sexual deviancy! The court stepped in and basically made it so that the ABOMINATION of homosexual sex is no logner considered an ABOMINtion in order to get this law passed-
IF they can arbitrarily decide what is an ABOMINATION and hwat isn’t and ABOMINATION, then what prevents them from declaring pedophilia socially acceptable now? Necrophilia? Polygamy? Bestiality? ETC ETC ETC- Simply because a majority of people think something ‘shouldn’t be labeled an ABOMINATION any longer doesn’t mean that the OBJECTIVE criteria for sin has changed! OBJECTIVE morals are just that- NOT open to SUBJECTIVE courts ‘interpretations’
The courts just SUBJECTIVELY decided that the ABOMINATION of homosexuality should no longer be considered sin because ‘gay people have loved each other for a long time now, and people’s opinions are changing’ (The REALITY though is that people have been systematically BRAINWASHED over the decades to become desensitized to the SINFUL ABOMINATION of homosexuality- The objective morality standards have NOT changed!)
By deciding that the ABOMINATION of homosexuality is no logner a sin- the courts have arbitrarily decided Americans now have no right to think of it as such by penalty of the law if we do-
This ruling was NOT about allowing gay people a ‘right’ (which is NOT a right) it was about a direct all out assault on relgiion
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Can two people of the same gender legally marry now even though they are not homosexuals? They may want to do so to be able to share benefits like Social Security?
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