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To: wita; broken_arrow1
The following is not snark directed at the two of you, for your thoughts on Article V are not uncommon.

It is time to get out of the democrat/republican mindset. They are the two wings of the DC Uniparty and will not be represented at the convention.

As group, the states know all too well that Washington DC is out of control and driving them and their people into misery. Well over half of the states opposed both Obamacare and his illegal amnesty in court. I'm aware of two states taking steps to counter the effect the fag marriage Scotus decision. State legislatures are coming to realize they have the power to arrest and reverse the trend.

I suspect most Article V opponents emotionally refuse to believe that America is not exempt from historic cycles of freedom to slavery, of the sort Aristotle described unless we actively work to stop the process. They believe we can find deliverance if we only elect the right person for president. Our history has proved them to be fools.

Article V opponents equate a state amendment convention with our corrupted congress, a congress in which our freedoms and rights are easily traded away today for money, media support, and reelection tomorrow.

They are wrong. Article V opponents are stuck in static analysis. Men are shaped by the institutions in which they participate. The congressman who sells our rights today would never think of harming his family. Michele Bachmann was run out of congress for being virtuous in a corrupt institution. Had she joined the sleaze and venality that typifies congress, she could be there today. What I describe is identical to the behavioral difference between men in strip clubs and church.

The states will send delegates, meaning serious men/women of character and judgment armed with commissions to promote their state supported amendments. Delegates to an amendment convention will be unconcerned with that which drives congress: money, personal power, and reelection will not be their focus or interest.

We can have every expectation that state delegates will rise to the occasion. They will understand the gravity of their assignment and conduct themselves in a manner precisely opposite that of congress.

23 posted on 06/28/2015 8:15:37 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Jacquerie
We can have every expectation that state delegates will rise to the occasion. They will understand the gravity of their assignment and conduct themselves in a manner precisely opposite that of congress.

That is hoping for a miracle - I am with you, but not holding my breath...

24 posted on 06/28/2015 8:26:14 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Jacquerie

Sorry for the delayed response but I have been gone all day.

“We can have every expectation that state delegates will rise to the occasion. They will understand the gravity of their assignment and conduct themselves in a manner precisely opposite that of congress.”

The manner of choosing delegates is not hard and fast, and certainly not focused on conservative constitutionalists. It is really not possible IMHO to get anything other than a mix of mainstream liberal and conservative Republicans, and Democrats transfixed on repeal of Citizens United. Expecting anything more from delegates chosen by the states would be false hope.

I suggest you track the efforts of The Assembly of State Legislatures who have spent time and effort for at least three years investigating the possibility of a Convention of states the rules needed, and possible amendments.

The one hope is that Congress in DC might be moved to improve their votes on some issues, if, and that is a big if, the states get too close to enough support that they might ask Congress to call a convention. My state has already bought in, but there are still many states to go. Eleven to call and fifteen to ratify. If you can reach consensus on what amendment or amendments to present.

In today’s environment, not prudent at all. Again, my state has already drunk the we have got to do something Kool Aid.

All before the ridiculous decision Friday by SCOTUS.


26 posted on 06/28/2015 5:01:53 PM PDT by wita
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