Posted on 06/25/2015 7:03:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
One hundred fifty years too late, the Confederacy may finally be coming to an end. Finishing it off, however, will require more than getting rid of an offensive flag.
Not that the astounding progress this week toward consigning the Confederate battle flag to the ignominy it deserves is a small thing. Flags are among the most important symbols because they signify allegiance — in this case, to a treasonous rebellion that sought the unimpeded right to buy and sell human beings and brutally compel their unpaid labor.
It should not have taken the murder of nine African-American worshipers at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church — committed by a young white man who fetishized the flag — to force the reckoning we now witness:
South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley has demanded that the state Legislature pass a measure removing the Confederate flag from the capitol grounds.
Alabama's governor ordered that the flag no longer be flown above his state's capitol. Mississippi is considering altering its state flag to remove the Confederate motif. Wal-Mart, Amazon and other major retailers have announced they will no longer sell merchandise emblazoned with the flag.
There are, of course, diehards. A South Carolina state legislator named Lee Bright — a Republican who happens to be one of the state co-chairmen for Sen. Ted Cruz's presidential campaign — denounced what he called a "Stalinist purge" of the rebel flag and said he will fight to keep it. Happily, he will almost surely fail....
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Good post.
When the smoke and mirrors come out, know they are playing criminal in the dark, too close to the light.
The God of justice is going to have his hands full with this batch of miscreants in Goobermint.
As fast as this all seems to be moving, I can't help but think, this has been in the works for a long time. They have just been waiting for the right moment. Now, they have the right moment, or at least in their minds they do.
It really is odd this attack on the Confederate battle flag. I’m not sure if it is primarily because of the flag, to somehow bring out conservative politicians that may support the flag, to sway southern voters, or is just something to switch attention from the punk kid and the horrible murders he committed.
I can’t help but think it is to move us away from the victims, the community’s response of Christian faith and forgiveness, and the coming together of blacks and whites in that community in prayer vigils, etc. That SURE doesn’t fit the agenda of furthering the racial divide that this administration strokes the flames of whenever it gets the chance. They are aiding and abetting the punk murderer in his call for a civil war.
Ignorance by the freight car...
Every sub-literate Lefty is jumping on the bandwagon and generating as much self-serving cacophony as possible.
I think it is purely politically motivated, maybe not necessarily to sway southern voters in general, but it is to sway minority voters in particular. I know as a Christian, I should not hate these left wing, liberal, socialist, pinko commie geek, POS, MOFOs, but I am having more than a little trouble with it.
Unions, plantation owners, same difference. Democrats both.
Lincoln sent in the army after the attack on Fort Sumter.
They overplay their hands because they win. Theycan be holding a busted flush while republicans are holding a royal flush and the republicans will fold. Happens every effin time.
“The Left always overplays their hand. They can’t help it.”
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So true. I wonder if they have thought about how much resentment this going to cause. They have awakened a comatose giant all in the name of political correctness.
It won’t be forgotten and it will be passed down from generation to generation as a glaring reason to never trust the left. They are biologically predisposed to be evil in deed and thought.
I prefer to think that rather than overplaying their hand, they keep telegraphing where they intend to go and too many ignore and discount it until the bus arrives on the corner.
THE civil war was NOT ABOUT SLAVES
IT WAS ABOUT STATES RIGHTS..... and the wrong side won
The attack on Ft. Sumter was not simple nor quick, and began under Lincoln’s predecessor, president Buchanan.
“On December 26, 1860, six days after South Carolina declared its secession, U.S. Army Major Robert Anderson abandoned the indefensible Fort Moultrie. He secretly relocated companies E and H (127 men) of the 1st U.S. Artillery to Fort Sumter on his own initiative, without orders from his superiors. He thought that providing a stronger defense would delay an attack by South Carolina (importantly, *not* Confederate) militia. The fort was not yet complete at the time.
In a letter delivered January 31, 1861, South Carolina Governor Pickens demanded of President Buchanan that he surrender Fort Sumter because, “I regard that possession is not consistent with the dignity or safety of the State of South Carolina.” Over the next few months repeated calls for evacuation of Fort Sumter from the government of South Carolina and then from Confederate Brigadier General P. G. T. Beauregard were ignored.
“Union attempts to resupply and reinforce the garrison were repulsed on January 9, 1861 when the first shots of the war, fired by cadets from the Citadel, prevented the steamer Star of the West, hired to transport troops and supplies to Fort Sumter, from completing the task. After realizing that Sumter would run out of food by April 15, 1861, President Lincoln ordered a fleet of ships, to attempt entry into Charleston Harbor. The ships assigned were transporting motorized launches and about 300 sailors (secretly removed from the Charleston fleet to join in the forced reinforcement of Fort Pickens, Pensacola, FL), armed screw steamer USS Pocahontas, Revenue Cutter USRC Harriet Lane, steamer Baltic transporting about 200 troops, composed of companies C and D of the 2nd U.S. Artillery, and three hired tug boats with added protection against small arms fire to be used to tow troop and supply barges directly to Fort Sumter. By April 6, 1861 the first ships began to set sail for their rendezvous off the Charleston Bar. The first to arrive was Harriet Lane, the evening of April 11, 1861.”
“A pre-war February Peace Conference of 1861 met in Washington, Lincoln sneaking into town to stay in the Conference’s hotel its last three days. The attempt failed at resolving the crisis, but the remaining eight slave states rejected pleas to join the Confederacy following a two-to-one no-vote in Virginia’s First Secessionist Convention on April 4, 1861.”
“Since December, secessionists with and without state forces had seized Federal Court Houses, U.S. Treasury mints and post offices. Southern governors ordered militia mobilization, seized most of the federal forts and cannons within their boundaries and U.S. armories of infantry weapons. The governors in big-state Republican strongholds of Massachusetts, New York, and Pennsylvania quietly began buying weapons and training militia units themselves. President Buchanan protested seizure of Federal property, but made no military response.”
“On March 4, 1861, Abraham Lincoln was sworn in as President. In his inaugural address, he argued that the Constitution was “a more perfect union”, that it was a binding contract, and called any secession “legally void”.
“He said he had no intent to invade Southern states, nor did he intend to end slavery where it existed, but said that he would use force to maintain possession of federal property. The government would make no move to recover post offices, and if resisted, mail delivery would end at state lines. Where popular conditions did not allow peaceful enforcement of Federal law, U.S. Marshals and Judges would be withdrawn.
“No mention was made of bullion lost from U.S. mints in Louisiana, Georgia and North Carolina. U.S. policy would only collect import duties at its ports; there could be no serious injury to justify revolution in the politics of four years. His speech closed with a plea for restoration of the bonds of union.
“The South sent delegations to Washington and offered to pay for the federal properties and enter into a peace treaty with the United States. Lincoln rejected any negotiations with Confederate agents because he claimed the Confederacy was not a legitimate government, and that making any treaty with it would be tantamount to recognition of it as a sovereign government.
“Secretary of State William Seward who at that time saw himself as the real governor or “prime minister” behind the throne of the inexperienced Lincoln, engaged in unauthorized and indirect negotiations that failed.”
(after the capture of Fort Sumter)
“Lincoln called on all the states to send forces to recapture Fort and other federal properties. He cited presidential powers given by the Militia Acts of 1792. With the scale of the rebellion apparently small so far, Lincoln called for only 75,000 volunteers for 90 days. On May 3, 1861, Lincoln called for an additional 42,000 volunteers for a period of three years.
“Four states in the middle and upper South had repeatedly rejected Confederate overtures, but now Virginia, Tennessee, Arkansas, and North Carolina refused to send forces against their neighbors, declared their secession, and joined the Confederacy.”
Importantly, after the Union loss at the 1st battle of Bull Run (1st Manassas), congress passed the Crittenden-Johnson Resolution on July 25 of that year, which stated that the war was being fought to preserve the Union and not to end slavery.
So, Lincoln said the war was to preserve the union, and so that the federal government retained control over federal forts and facilities, and congress agreed with the first part.
The Confederacy still fired the first shot leaving self-determination a non-factor.
Even that is questionable. When John Brown led his raid on the federal arsenal at Harper’s Ferry, though unsuccessful, many southerners believed the north would lend tacit support to efforts to bring about a slave insurrection. He was hung for treason against that state.
Then, despite what Lincoln was saying, he intended to fortify the coastal forts, Sumter and one off Florida, so that the national government could easily blockade their ports. This was countered and the governor pleaded with Washington to not do this, because it was seen as a belligerent act.
It wasn’t the state militia, or the Confederacy that fired on Fort Sumter, but students at the Citadel. At that point the state was not even part of the Confederacy.
A modern day comparison is Russia and Ukraine. Russia insists that it is not being belligerent, while arming rebels and massing its military on the border.
John Brown wasn't a regular.
Then, despite what Lincoln was saying, he intended to fortify the coastal forts, Sumter and one off Florida, so that the national government could easily blockade their ports.
No, the fort still needed a lot of work.
This was countered and the governor pleaded with Washington to not do this, because it was seen as a belligerent act.
They should've waited for the blockade to actually begin then. You don't start a war firing on a Fort that doesn't even pose a threat, it was incomplete, and wasn't a threat. It was a naked act of aggression, and the Confederacy got the war they wanted. The people gathered on the shores to watch and celebrate. They weren't celebrating when Sherman came through a few years later though.
It wasn’t the state militia, or the Confederacy that fired on Fort Sumter, but students at the Citadel. At that point the state was not even part of the Confederacy.
No, the cadets fired on The Star of the West. The attack on Fort Sumter was a Confederate attack.
A modern day comparison is Russia and Ukraine. Russia insists that it is not being belligerent, while arming rebels and massing its military on the border.
I think it's clear Russia has fired in anger in Ukraine.
I give you points for your twisting of history to fit your revisionism though, quite an act. lol
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