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To: ought-six
ought-six: "Approved by the Missouri Legislature on October 31, 1861."

On January 17, 1861 the Missouri General Assembly passed a law calling for a state Constitutional Convention to decide the issue of Union or secession.
That Convention was elected on February 18, met and then voted on March 19, 1861 89-1 against secession.

In the events which followed, the pro-Confederate governor and 20 delegates from the convention fled to Neosho in far south-western Missouri, where they set up a rump government which declared secession in October 1861, and was recognized as a Confederate state by the Confederacy.

In the mean time, in July 1861 Missouri's elected Constitutional Convention declared all state offices vacant, and appointed new officials, including a new governor.

After the March 1862 Battle of Pea Ridge in Arkansas, the alleged Confederate government of Missouri never again controlled territory in Missouri.
Missouri's Confederate capital eventually moved to Marshall, Texas.

Bottom line: Missouri was always a majority Union state, with a small minority of slave-holding Confederates who neither outnumbered nor out-fought their Unionist fellow citizens.

ought-six: "Adopted 20 Nov 1861, by a Convention of the People of Kentucky"

Like Missouri, Kentucky was majority Unionist, but had a pro-Confederate governor.
After overwhelming Unionist election victories in August 1861, pro-Confederates formed their own rump government in October 1861, declared secession and were recognized by the Confederate government as a Confederate state.

That alleged Confederate government of Kentucky never controlled significant state territory, and after the Battle of Perryville in October 1862, the Confederate government of Kentucky never again set foot in Kentucky.
It was said to be located somewhere in Tennessee, but seems to have more-or-less faded into nothing by war's end.

Bottom line: Like Missouri, Kentucky was always a majority Union state, with a small minority of slave-holding Confederates who neither outnumbered nor out-fought their Unionist fellow citizens.

124 posted on 06/26/2015 3:27:06 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK

Again, you totally miss the point. Missouri and Kentucky did approve secession measures, but they were not ratified. I NEVER said they seceded or joined the Confederacy. You need to step back, take a deep breath, and simply accept that there is a major difference between a measure and its ultimate ratification.

I don’t know if it is you or someone else who keeps on screeching that secession was wrong, illegal, , etc. Yet, those who take that position are just fine with West Virginia seceding from Virginia. So, secession is wrong, expect when it isn’t?


130 posted on 06/28/2015 6:43:06 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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