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Court Martialed for Bible Verse (E-mail Update)
American Center for Law and Justice ^ | June 24, 2015 | Jay Sekulow

Posted on 06/24/2015 6:54:31 AM PDT by Maudeen

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To: philetus

That said, I do doubt if they want Christians in the military, these days.


I do doubt they want true Bible believing Christians anywhere in the US these days. Please explain to me what harm is a “Bible Verse”? I sincerely think all of these episodes involve demons of darkness retaliating because of the undeniable “light and truth” of the Lord Jesus Christ.


21 posted on 06/24/2015 8:35:29 AM PDT by Maudeen
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To: SZonian

She was not court-martialed for “her faith”, she was court-martialed for disobeying a direct order, numerous times.


If this is the case then ALL desks should be clear of anything. . family photos (it might offend), words of encouragement, plants (tree huggers might be offended that the plant has been denied its rights for fresh air and sunlight). . . these episodes against God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are nothing but a precursor against religious freedom in this country. I never thought I would see the amount of Christian persecution going on in America as is happening today. Even taking a 45 degree turn back to sanity may be impossible. May God come to our rescue.


22 posted on 06/24/2015 8:46:35 AM PDT by Maudeen
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To: newfreep

“allah is satan”

Satan masquerades as God, seeking to be worshiped like God.

However, you need to know that “Allah” is the title of God in Arabic. There is no other word for God in Arabic. Arabic Christians have been referring to God as Allah before an English version of the Bible existed and before Islam existed.

God is real and has left for Himself a title in every language because He created language and divided the languages.

While it is true that Islam is unknowingly promoting Satan worship in the name of their religion, and they have misappropriated the Arabic title for God as His name, nothing is accomplished by maligning the Arabic title for God.

God is not Satan. And God is called “Allah” in Arabic.


23 posted on 06/24/2015 9:02:19 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: unlearner

FYI....

God = God

allah = satan
islam = satan’s death cult

It’s not rocket science...despite your pretzel illogical thought process.


24 posted on 06/24/2015 9:06:34 AM PDT by newfreep ("Evil succeeds when good men do nothting" - Edmund Burke)
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To: newfreep

Please don’t double down on stupid. I politely tried to educate you from your obvious ignorance of the language involved.

Christians far, far more faithful than you or I have ever had to be and have been willing to be tortured and die for their faith in Christ have their entire lives known God, the Father of Jesus, to be “Allah”.

We speak English, but some people do not. And it was God who made it that way.

And I am letting you know that in your ignorance you have maligned God’s exclusive title which He ordained in the Arabic language.

If you have a problem with that then your problem is with God who made Arabs and who invented and divided the languages.

Arabs were Christians before English speakers were. Arab Christians were calling God Allah before English speakers ever heard of Jesus.

When exposed to information you may have never heard before, the wise thing to do is verify it and adjust accordingly rather than insulting the messenger because you don’t like hearing facts.


25 posted on 06/24/2015 9:26:45 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: Maudeen

That’s exactly what it is.


26 posted on 06/24/2015 9:29:49 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: unlearner
Clearly, you cannot grasp reality.

God = God

allah = satan

allah DOES NOT EQUAL God despite your assertions to the contrary.

You're either a "useful idiot" or just another apologist for the satanic death cult known as islam.

One more time...allah DOES NOT EQUAL God (only a satanic idiot would believe allah = God)

27 posted on 06/24/2015 10:50:11 AM PDT by newfreep ("Evil succeeds when good men do nothting" - Edmund Burke)
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To: Maudeen; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Active Duty ping.


28 posted on 06/24/2015 10:50:57 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Flintlock
Makes one wonder about the coming civil war.
29 posted on 06/24/2015 10:54:57 AM PDT by Duckdog (If it wasn't for NASCAR my TV would have gone out the window years ago!)
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To: newfreep

In my many years on FR I have never seen such raw basic ignorance and foolishness. And there has been plenty.

Do you not grasp the simple reality that words are part of languages and that English is not the only language on the planet?

Let me repeat myself since you obviously have not even grasped the simplest and most basic point of the conversation:

“Allah” is the ONLY word for God in Arabic.

This means that missionaries to Arabs use the word Allah to explain the message of the Bible. It also means that the Christian Bible translated into Arabic uses the word Allah for God. It is not just the Islamic religion that refers to God as Allah.

Do you NOT understand that Arabic was spoken by early Christians BEFORE Christianity came to English speaking people?

Do you NOT understand that Arabic Christians and Jews have referred to God as Allah for centuries and long before Islam even existed?

Do you think Paul learned Christianity by reading the King James Bible? (He was personally taught by Christ is Saudi Arabia.)

“allah DOES NOT EQUAL God despite your assertions to the contrary.”

You are having a disconnect with reality. I never used the language you are using. I clearly explained so that even a child could comprehend that Allah is the Arabic word for God. It is as simple as that. If you cannot grasp that, it is because you simply do not want to hear it.

When someone who speaks Arabic (not English, not Spanish, not German, Arabic) wishes to discuss something about God, he or she has no other option to choose from in the native tongue except Allah BECAUSE that is God’s title in Arabic.

“Clearly, you cannot grasp reality.”

It really does not make any difference whether you like this or not. It is not a matter of opinion. It is a fact. Your inability to accept reality is called psychosis. It is much the same as Bruce Jenner wanting to be Caitlyn Jenner. So it is ironic that you project this disorder onto me when I am simply stating a fact.

“apologist for the satanic death cult known as islam”

How anyone could construe my comments as in any way supporting Islam is beyond comprehension.

Islam hijacked the Arabic title for God. But there is still One God for all nations and all languages. The fact that Islam has misappropriated God’s Arabic title does not negate the fact that He is still the God of Arabs just as much as He is the God of Americans and the God of every other nationality and people who speak any other language. Muslims do not know who the One true God is. But in Arabic Allah is still the word for God even if Muslims have abused and misused it. Don’t join them by doing the same. And don’t get angry with me for disseminating this factual information.

Satan is not God. Satan wants to be God. Satan wants to be worshiped like God. Satan masquerades as God. Satan controls the Islamic religion. Satan pretends to be God/Allah to Arabic speaking people. But Satan is not God.

God is God. God is not Satan. God has different titles in many different languages. God’s title in Arabic is Allah. Saying so is not supporting Islam, it is recognizing the reality of people speaking languages other than English.


30 posted on 06/24/2015 11:34:00 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: unlearner

There is a major difference in my opinion.

God is one God in three persons. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. That Allah is the only word for God in the translation IS the underlying problem.

I am not up to speed with the various translations, but unless the Trinity is provided in whatever language translation, then the Gospel of Christ is for naught in that translation and I am afraid many have been led astray.


31 posted on 06/24/2015 11:52:35 AM PDT by Maudeen
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To: Maudeen; unlearner

Maudeen, to further build on your accurate comments...

satan/allah’s “Book of satanic Verses” is filled with hate and satanic evil and demands all Jews be killed.

This alone demonstrates allah/satan is the Bi-Polar opposite of God, His Judeo-Christian followers and His Word as written in the Bible.

It’s not rocket science...yet some simply are unable to see the truth of the satanic evil known as islam.


32 posted on 06/24/2015 12:15:32 PM PDT by newfreep ("Evil succeeds when good men do nothting" - Edmund Burke)
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To: Maudeen

There is no need to speculate, Maudeen. Christianity spread to Arabs in the first century. Paul, Peter and other apostles spent time in Arab lands.

This is not only recorded historically. It is in the Bible.

Arab Christians do not and never have based their theology on Islamic ideas.

The same message of the gospel was proclaimed in Arabic long before it came to English speakers, and the gospel continues to be proclaimed in Arabic. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are part of the theology of God no matter what language the doctrine is taught in.

Islam rejects God having a Son, which means they do not know God because the Bible has clearly revealed that the only way to the Father is through the Son. And being drawn to God is the work of the Holy Spirit.

I dare say that most Arab Christians have a deeper understanding of God than most American Christians because they must put their lives at risk for their faith. Their theology is not merely theoretical assent to God’s qualities. They know Him personally.


33 posted on 06/24/2015 12:17:48 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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