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Bandidos’ attorney: Police account of Twin Peaks shooting ‘false,’ ‘damaging’
Waco Tribune ^ | June 23, 2015 | OLIVIA MESSER

Posted on 06/24/2015 4:37:11 AM PDT by don-o

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To: zeugma; Jim Robinson
It can also discourage others from posting because they see how viciously others posting are attacked.

Absolutely -- it is all about breaking down the morale of the kinds of American patriots who exercise their right to free association on FR -- Jim, thank you so much for this venue. May God bless and keep you and yours.

81 posted on 06/24/2015 11:28:26 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: TexasGator
How many times are you going to post that?

Did ever dawn on you the Bandido's and others are lying?

82 posted on 06/24/2015 11:43:48 AM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Osage Orange
"Did ever dawn on you the Bandido's and others are lying?"

Step from behind your keyboard and call this guy a liar.


83 posted on 06/24/2015 12:10:03 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

You are a worthless troll.........


84 posted on 06/24/2015 12:26:55 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Osage Orange

With the longest shelf life I have seen in a long time around here. Quite amazing, that.


85 posted on 06/24/2015 12:33:30 PM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: zeugma
It can also discourage others from posting because they see how viciously others posting are attacked.

I have private messages saying exactly THAT regarding the Waco threads.

86 posted on 06/24/2015 12:38:49 PM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o
I have private messages saying exactly THAT regarding the Waco threads.

Well, if there is one thing the police state jackweasels are good at it's intimidation.

I suspect though, that their efforts are not making them any friends, and makes people less likely to support their position.

 

87 posted on 06/24/2015 2:12:33 PM PDT by zeugma (The best defense against a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun)
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To: TexasGator

We are in agreement! The Bandidos are “grateful for the job police did”.


88 posted on 06/24/2015 2:28:48 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: zeugma

LOL. Some of us have jobs...

Now this IS TG’s job, I suspect. I don’t think he realizes just how burned he is and that the fact he is here is yet further evidence of just how wrong things are in Waco.


89 posted on 06/24/2015 2:34:02 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: zeugma

“Well, if there is one thing the police state jackweasels are good at it’s intimidation.”

Posts like that are exactly why more are not on these threads.


90 posted on 06/24/2015 2:45:03 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: wastoute

“Now this IS TG’s job, I suspect. I don’t think he realizes just how burned he is and that the fact he is here is yet further evidence of just how wrong things are in Waco.”

If I am ‘burned’ for bringing out the truth about the MC gangs, then so be it.


91 posted on 06/24/2015 2:46:52 PM PDT by TexasGator
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92 posted on 06/24/2015 2:54:58 PM PDT by zeugma (The best defense against a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun)
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To: TexasGator

Does the gummint send people in not just to get intel but disrupt?

When I was a freshman at UC Boulder in ‘72 there was an anti war protest in response to something Nixon had done, bombing in Loas or something. Having shoulder length hair and wire frame glasses ( I wore them for years before he did) I looked like John Lennon. By then I had a lottery number of 356 so I was pretty sure I wasn’t going no matter what happened. But I was interested to see the event on campus and hear the speakers. Speakers started out calmly enough, reciting the history of the war. I may be remembering it wrong but it seems Ellsberg himself was there speaking. Toward the end a guy in a fatigue jacket came up and asked to speak. He was unscheduled but they let him. I was back about 75 yards from the dais and listening calmly as were we all. Some 25 feet to my right were a line of Boulder PD, to keep order. I noticed a young man in civilian clothing standing with a pack in his jeans and shirt chatting with the police. Pretty soon he starts taking photos with a long lense. He was shooting individuals in the crowd. I remember thinking, we now we all have FBI files. Anyway, meanwhile, the “spontaneous” guest starts on about how he is a B-52 pilot just home and starts ranting and shouting about how our gummint is murdering thousands of peaceful Asians with indiscriminate bombing and, etc. he was getting folks pretty worked up about how we were all murders. Just as he hit “frenzy” some guy runs up and grabs the mike and screams, “enough of this BULLSH... Let’s take the overpass and shut it down. I immediately recognized the dude because not ten minutes before he had been taking pictures for our FBI files. Like Twain said, “all hearts and no brains (is a mob)”. So off everyone goes to “take the overpass”. My gf, we married 6 months later, and I followed along and I remember thinking just how stupid these people were. We were about to physically engage the police and everybody wanted to be on that bridge with only two, narrow avenues of egress. We watched the activities from a safer perspective but I never forgot how that crowd was set in motion by a guy who was clearly a gummint disrupt or.

Who knows, coulda been your dad, TG. Hell, maybe it was YOU.


93 posted on 06/24/2015 3:12:27 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

“Who knows, coulda been your dad, TG. Hell, maybe it was YOU.”

I doubt it. I was patrolling HaiPhong Harbor in 72.


94 posted on 06/24/2015 3:47:07 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Finny

Not surprising, but no mention of any undercover officers. Nor is there any claim that the list is exhaustive.

How many Feds, undercovers, or confidential informants were on scene?


95 posted on 06/24/2015 5:28:58 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: TexasGator

TG, after the “black palms in my backyard” “here in Massachusetts” “where I am an electrical engineer” who doesn’t seem to have a real firm grasp on Physics I believe you about as much as I believed that guy in ‘72 was a B-52 pilot. Sorry.


96 posted on 06/24/2015 5:48:55 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: TexasGator

Here, I thought you were a chick.....


97 posted on 06/24/2015 6:06:18 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Triple
Not surprising, but no mention of any undercover officers. Nor is there any claim that the list is exhaustive. How many Feds, undercovers, or confidential informants were on scene?

Good question, but we'll never know.

This stands out: The number of weapons discovered during our search of the crime scene has increased since the first release and may continue to increase. The weapon count at this point in time is at least 475 weapons. This includes 151 firearms, 12 of which were long guns.

In Texas. Where it is legal to carry guns and knives. How many were there perfectly legally? And was the bb gun they seized among the property of one Cossack, among those dangerous long guns? So many questions!

The weapons recovered include: knives, brass knuckles, batons, tomahawks, weighted weapons, a hatchet, stun guns, bats, clubs, a machete, a pipe, an ax, pepper spray, and a chain. ..... and watch chains, nail clippers, fix-all tools, and pocket knives, lots and lots of 'em.

Many of these were hastily hidden and some were found using metal detectors as they were buried beneath the grass in the dirt.

Whatever you say, bub.

But don't worry - they'll have it all sorted out in a few years and if the officers were wrong, they'll be held accountable, don't you worry. It's the only way to be fair.

98 posted on 06/24/2015 6:52:41 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: wastoute
BUMP

When I was a freshman at UC Boulder in ‘72 there was an anti war protest in response to something Nixon had done, bombing in Loas or something. Having shoulder length hair and wire frame glasses ( I wore them for years before he did) I looked like John Lennon. By then I had a lottery number of 356 so I was pretty sure I wasn’t going no matter what happened. But I was interested to see the event on campus and hear the speakers.

Speakers started out calmly enough, reciting the history of the war. I may be remembering it wrong but it seems Ellsberg himself was there speaking. Toward the end a guy in a fatigue jacket came up and asked to speak. He was unscheduled but they let him. I was back about 75 yards from the dais and listening calmly as were we all. Some 25 feet to my right were a line of Boulder PD, to keep order.

I noticed a young man in civilian clothing standing with a pack in his jeans and shirt chatting with the police. Pretty soon he starts taking photos with a long lens. He was shooting individuals in the crowd. I remember thinking, we now we all have FBI files.

Anyway, meanwhile, the “spontaneous” guest starts on about how he is a B-52 pilot just home and starts ranting and shouting about how our gummint is murdering thousands of peaceful Asians with indiscriminate bombing and, etc. he was getting folks pretty worked up about how we were all murders. Just as he hit “frenzy” some guy runs up and grabs the mike and screams, “enough of this BULLSH... Let’s take the overpass and shut it down. I immediately recognized the dude because not ten minutes before he had been taking pictures for our FBI files.

Like Twain said, “all hearts and no brains (is a mob)”. So off everyone goes to “take the overpass”. My gf, we married 6 months later, and I followed along and I remember thinking just how stupid these people were. We were about to physically engage the police and everybody wanted to be on that bridge with only two, narrow avenues of egress. We watched the activities from a safer perspective but I never forgot how that crowd was set in motion by a guy who was clearly a gummint disrupt or.

99 posted on 06/24/2015 7:06:42 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

Thanks for the edit. My wife usually edits me but she isn’t a FReeper.


100 posted on 06/24/2015 7:51:41 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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