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Cruz Now a ‘No’ on TPA Read more at:
National Review Online - The Corner ^ | June 23, 2015 10:24 AM | Andrew C. McCarthy

Posted on 06/23/2015 5:43:39 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

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To: ripnbang

He has a deadline to meet at the end of the month. There was a campaign push to fundraise the past couple of days. I received a letter. I’m guessing that what really happened was that the money wasn’t rolling in as fast. I’m sure he was getting a lot of negative feedback from supporters.


61 posted on 06/23/2015 6:48:16 PM PDT by conservativegranny
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To: semimojo
It’s dizzying to watch McCarthy and Levin spin as they try to square their support of free trade with their nominal opposition to TPA and support of Cruz - and in the case of Levin his financial support by the unabashedly protectionist American Jobs Alliance.

If you say so....
62 posted on 06/23/2015 6:49:06 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: conservativegranny
He has a deadline to meet at the end of the month. There was a campaign push to fundraise the past couple of days. I received a letter. I’m guessing that what really happened was that the money wasn’t rolling in as fast. I’m sure he was getting a lot of negative feedback from supporters.

I am SOOOOOOO SURE that was the case.
63 posted on 06/23/2015 6:49:43 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: conservativegranny; ripnbang
He has a deadline to meet at the end of the month. There was a campaign push to fundraise the past couple of days. I received a letter. I’m guessing that what really happened was that the money wasn’t rolling in as fast. I’m sure he was getting a lot of negative feedback from supporters.

I am SOOOOOOO SURE that was the case.

I mean, if you look at his record, it is so chock-full of examples where he chose expedience over principle, right?

I mean, if you really wanted to, you could post a lot of examples where Ted Cruz acted not from Principle, but simply out of selfishness and self-interest, right?
64 posted on 06/23/2015 6:51:26 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

There is no other way to look at it SoConPubbie.

Cruz is saying he NOW does not support TPA 1. He was misled. It was a bad deal. There’s no way around that.

He is saying he does not support TPA 2

He was misled on TPA 1.

He discovered the perfidy on TPA 2.


65 posted on 06/23/2015 6:53:13 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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To: SoConPubbie
He was 'shocked' that you couldn't trust the GOP Leadership!

Where has he been for the last 20 years!

66 posted on 06/23/2015 6:53:33 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Luircin

Perhaps. But maybe it’s possible that his suck ups, enablers and excuse makers will just look the other way and pretend it did not happen the way it happened.


67 posted on 06/23/2015 6:54:32 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: SoConPubbie
not as I read it.

Then take your rose colored glasses off and look at it objectively.

68 posted on 06/23/2015 6:54:34 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: fortheDeclaration
He was 'shocked' that you couldn't trust the GOP Leadership!

Where has he been for the last 20 years!


If you say so .......
69 posted on 06/23/2015 6:55:06 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: P-Marlowe
Then take your rose colored glasses off and look at it objectively.

Actually I did.

But thanks for the encouragement.
70 posted on 06/23/2015 6:56:17 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: xzins

> “He would not admit to being misled by McConnell on the first, if there wasn’t something wrong with it.”

Are you speaking for Senator Cruz now?

How can the first TPA be bad if expiration of the EX-IM Bank was assured and was in the Bill that was sent to the House?

Now that the TPA has come back to the Senate from the House where the democrats in the House amended the bill to renew the EX-IM Bank, Senator Cruz voted NO.

What is wrong with your comprehension here? Don’t you know from all these threads on this subject that Boehner allowed the democrats to amend the Bill to allow such things as renewal of EX-IM? And many other things as well.

What kind of narrative are you trying to build?

I see clearly that TPA went out from the Senate to the House as a good bill which did no harm and it came back as a different bill with harmful provisions.

What do you see differently?

Are you saying Cruz or anyone should have looked into a crystal ball to see that the House Bill would be amended by liberals and that conservative amendments would be blocked?

I’ll put it into a simple example.

Say I’m in Houston, TX. I go to a Walmart that I am told is a normal Walmart by a colleague. I enter the parking lot and see the Walmart building with normal logos. I enter the store and everything looks normal.

I give a Walmart cashier a 10 dollar bill for payment of an item I want to purchase. The cashier gives me change in Brazilian Real.

Was I supposed to be able and predict the cashier would do that?

Where do you get off trying to hang everything you can around Ted Cruz’ neck?

I’ve asked repeatedly of a handful of anti-Cruz trolls who are constantly all over these threads with the same attacks why they don’t hang Senator Sessions for his vote on the SECRET Iran deal. And not one of them can answer except to divert to another subject or to launch a personal attack.

But if Senator Cruz so much as mentions a kind word about Free Trade as in making an agreement for American producers to sell their goods overseas, you try and bring the house down on him!

Senator Cruz voted YES for a good bill and then voted NO when the Bill was returned as a bad bill. What is so sinister about that?

And if Senator Cruz is such a fraud for voting on the original TPA (which was quite good), then why is Senator Sessions not a fraud for voting for the SECRET Iran deal?

You see where this leads? It leads to insanity. Your whole ‘schtick’ is to hang Ted Cruz in any way you can while ignoring the votes of other fine conservatives.

Mike Lee did not vote NO on the latest incarnation of TPA. Does that make him a fraud as well?

Yes, you are engaged in insanity trying to bring a good man down through false misleading threads and comments.

It won’t work. Ted Cruz has been talking to the grassroots everywhere he goes where he asked about these troubling trade issues and he succeeds in gathering wide fervent support in spite of a handful of trolls that are trying to stir up a sinister narrative.


71 posted on 06/23/2015 6:56:45 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: SoConPubbie

No, that is what he said.


72 posted on 06/23/2015 6:58:33 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Hostage; xzins
The fact is that Cruz should never have voted for the 1st TPA since it gave Obama power.

That is what you guys refuse to admit.

73 posted on 06/23/2015 7:00:41 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Hostage; P-Marlowe
In his initial vote in favor of TPA, the senator intimates that he was misled by Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell (R., Ky.), who, when pressed on the matter, testily represented to him that there were no side-deals on Ex-Im. Cruz opposes reauthorization of the bank, which is scheduled to expire at the end of this month. He describes Ex-Im as “a classic example of corporate welfare” and cronyism at its worst” — a position Veronique de Rugy has repeatedly and (in my view) compellingly argued here on the Corner. (See archive, here.)

I'm not speaking for anyone. This portion of the article above has Cruz being the one suggesting he was misled.

74 posted on 06/23/2015 7:01:10 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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To: xzins

> “Cruz is saying he NOW does not support TPA 1.”

Bullsh*t noted.


75 posted on 06/23/2015 7:01:31 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: SoConPubbie
If you say so....

No mystery. Levin sponsor obamatrade.com is American Jobs Alliance. Their website leaves no doubt where they stand which is 180 degrees from free trade.

76 posted on 06/23/2015 7:01:40 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: SoConPubbie

Andrew is clearly supportive of Ted’s position on this.

Ted changed his position once he determined that Congressional leaders were being dishonest.

Ted is very presidential, a once in a generation Reagan conservative.


77 posted on 06/23/2015 7:02:43 PM PDT by MN_Mike (Cruz 2016)
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To: semimojo

Do you consider NAFTA to have been “free market” trading?


78 posted on 06/23/2015 7:03:42 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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To: SoConPubbie

That is according to what your boy Cruz just told a few million people. He said that the TPA DOES NOT have any prohibitive immigration language in it. Can I repeat what he said: He and Senator Sessions failed to get a clause inserted that would prohibit any changes in U.S. immigration law forever in TPA. Gowdy said that it did. Get snotty with them.


79 posted on 06/23/2015 7:07:04 PM PDT by odawg
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To: MN_Mike

Toast Cruz, Obama supporter and enabler on ObamaTRADE,
is no Ronald Reagan.

Ronald Reagan would NOT have given Obama more power,
would NOT have spit in his voters' and supporters' faces,
and would NOT have voted for something SECRET.

80 posted on 06/23/2015 7:07:49 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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