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Cruz Now a ‘No’ on TPA Read more at:
National Review Online - The Corner ^ | June 23, 2015 10:24 AM | Andrew C. McCarthy

Posted on 06/23/2015 5:43:39 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

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To: SoConPubbie

Didn’t know you had a cat.


41 posted on 06/23/2015 6:17:50 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: SoConPubbie

Ted Cruz was interviewed just now by Mark Levin. During the interview, Cruz stated that he and Sessions tried unsuccessfully to get added to TPA a clause that placed immigration forever off of trade agreements. Note that.

Trey Gowdy released this last week in defense of his vote for TPA:

“Finally, this new and modernized version of TPA in no way endangers U.S. sovereignty; rather, it empowers Congress and the American people, not the president or the executive branch. The TPA bill specifically says that any provision of a trade agreement that conflicts with U.S. law, be it immigration, environmental regulations or labor rules, will have no effect, and that U.S. law will supersede any foreign law in a dispute.”

Gowdy lied.

Trade law myths - you posted this in defense of Cruz’s first vote:

“Future trade deals would not be unconstitutional, nor would they undermine U.S. sovereignty, if they contained an agreement to submit some disputes to an international tribunal for an initial determination. The United States will always have the ultimate say over what its domestic laws provide. No future agreement could grant an international organization the power to change U.S. laws.”

According to what Cruz just said, that there were no immigration restrictions placed in TPA, the above quote is not true and is the reason he voted against it today. Now there are some talking points Cruz released to justify his first vote wherein he stated that immigration restrictions were in fact contained in the TPA he voted for. He was not telling the truth then. I will find it when I have the time.


42 posted on 06/23/2015 6:18:38 PM PDT by odawg
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To: Hugin

10 seconds of your time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXKeNKvl-J4


43 posted on 06/23/2015 6:18:55 PM PDT by thesligoduffyflynns (Shrimp Egg Foo Young- A tasty dish! gravy on the side please)
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To: SoConPubbie

44 posted on 06/23/2015 6:19:05 PM PDT by South40 ("I probably identify more as a Democrat." ~Donald Trump)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Cruz on Levin today

http://uneditedpolitics.com/ted-cruz-interview-on-the-mark-levin-show-62315/


45 posted on 06/23/2015 6:19:10 PM PDT by gwgn02
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To: odawg
Gowdy lied.

Must be true if you say so!



Now, do I really have to add a sarcasm tag?
46 posted on 06/23/2015 6:20:11 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Paladin2

NO, he is not the same old same old. Everything he does, everything he says is well thought out and based in logic. He does not cowtow to emotions..the beginning of TPA was all emotion...he explained, very articulately why he supported it..and now he articulated why he voted no. He is a breath of fresh air.


47 posted on 06/23/2015 6:20:17 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Paladin2

I don’t know either...I did not get to hear him on Levin though.

One poster said TPA constricts the executive... Not that I agree... But if that were true, why did Cruz then vote against such additional restrictions?

The explanations here do not make sense. I get the impression that true believers simply cannot explain it and so they’re calling names and belittling in an attempt to shut down the questions.

They’re not helping Cruz, they’re solidifying opposition. Jmo


48 posted on 06/23/2015 6:20:41 PM PDT by Principled (Government Slowdown using the budget process!)
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To: SoConPubbie; P-Marlowe; 2ndDivisionVet; caww; Hostage; TNMOUTH; Jane Long; Lumper20
In his initial vote in favor of TPA, the senator intimates that he was misled by Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell (R., Ky.), who, when pressed on the matter, testily represented to him that there were no side-deals on Ex-Im. Cruz opposes reauthorization of the bank, which is scheduled to expire at the end of this month. He describes Ex-Im as “a classic example of corporate welfare” and cronyism at its worst” — a position Veronique de Rugy has repeatedly and (in my view) compellingly argued here on the Corner. (See archive, here.)

It is clear in the above paragraph that Cruz is saying that BOTH TPAs were bad. He would not admit to being misled by McConnell on the first, if there wasn't something wrong with it. And, apparently, the wheeling/dealing continued, and the 2nd TPA was also bad.

My concern isn't proving anyone wrong. My concern is ensuring that Congress vote TPP down when it comes up for a vote.

The corruption in Washington DC is so bad that new senators are being intentionally misled by the leadership.

50 posted on 06/23/2015 6:24:05 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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To: Hildy
He's a flip flopper.

He should have opposed it from the start based on the last 6 years of 0bama administration transparency and fundamental change. Soon to be followed by the Rule of H!

51 posted on 06/23/2015 6:26:37 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: Rome2000

You’re damn right it’s a CPUSA effin’ conspiracy


52 posted on 06/23/2015 6:27:54 PM PDT by thesligoduffyflynns (Shrimp Egg Foo Young- A tasty dish! gravy on the side please)
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To: Principled

http://uneditedpolitics.com/ted-cruz-interview-on-the-mark-levin-show-62315/


53 posted on 06/23/2015 6:28:17 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe; 2ndDivisionVet; caww; Hostage; TNMOUTH; Jane Long; Lumper20
It is clear in the above paragraph that Cruz is saying that BOTH TPAs were bad. He would not admit to being misled by McConnell on the first, if there wasn't something wrong with it. And, apparently, the wheeling/dealing continued, and the 2nd TPA was also bad.

No it is not, not as I read it.

What is clear from the record is the following:

1. Ted Cruz has always been for Free Trade
2. He, along with Paul Ryan, initially supported the TPA
3. Ted Cruz that put out an amendment ON THE FIRST TPA, to remove all immigration related language from all future TPP.
4. Trey Gowdy has also stated that the amendment just did not focus on Immigration, but Climate Change and other issues
5. When Ted Cruz read the Wiki-Leaks leak on the TPA and found out the Immigration language was still in the TPA and Additionally, when McConnell refused to let the Ex-IM bank expire (Corporate Welfare and Corporate Cronyism to the tune of Hundreds of Billions of Loan Guarantee) Cruz refused to vote for it on the second vote.
54 posted on 06/23/2015 6:30:01 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Rome2000

I hear ya’......& now remember this- & this is what so angers me even more-

Before all those elections last yrs & intro of new repubs (not like they count anymore-they are all paid for as far as I am concerned)..........remember, remember, in the background there had been talk about impeachment ?

All you ever heard was the meme “There’s not enough people to support the action (referring to the american public)- “The American public doesn’t want this.......& on & on & on &, & then it was dropped like a lead ballon.......


55 posted on 06/23/2015 6:32:22 PM PDT by thesligoduffyflynns (Shrimp Egg Foo Young- A tasty dish! gravy on the side please)
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To: SoConPubbie

You left out where “Fast Track” Cruz insulted Sen. Sessions,
and where Cruz LIED to his voters and supporters for
his King Obama, for SECRECY,
and for his wife’s Goldmann Sachs.


56 posted on 06/23/2015 6:32:41 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: Paladin2

Very true. But there are some folks here that are blindly loyal and agree with one person on both sides of the issue.

It’s inexplicable, but they will rationalize all day about how it’s SO easy to explain.


57 posted on 06/23/2015 6:33:16 PM PDT by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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To: CCGuy

"This just in, from the home a vocal Cruz supporter."


58 posted on 06/23/2015 6:36:21 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: Diogenesis

I for one welcome our new Overlord.


59 posted on 06/23/2015 6:38:13 PM PDT by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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To: SoConPubbie

It’s dizzying to watch McCarthy and Levin spin as they try to square their support of free trade with their nominal opposition to TPA and support of Cruz - and in the case of Levin his financial support by the unabashedly protectionist American Jobs Alliance.


60 posted on 06/23/2015 6:48:06 PM PDT by semimojo
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