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Barack Obama to eulogize slain pastor [Proverbs 6]
Politico ^ | 6/22/2015 | Maura Reynolds

Posted on 06/22/2015 4:45:54 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

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To: Jan_Sobieski

Then he’ll go golfing.


21 posted on 06/22/2015 7:42:47 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Oh, I remember why I cut it off, was watching streaming video. I know my taste in music is different, but I couldn't handle that guitar player. So I missed all the rest of it after that. Maybe even Obama, not sure, just that I knew from the news he was giving the eulogy.

Three bishops? That figures.

I could tell Beau's political ambitions, or his father's ambitions for him were over. There was another handsome brother, Hunter, but he spoke pretty softly with not much feeling in his voice (don't mean to be unfair because some were pretty broken up). I looked it up, and he's been in trouble and messed up his military career.

Well, whatever one thinks of the Catholic church at this point, I happened to be watching a ytube video of the baptism of the Monaco twins. It was going to be too long, in French, but I did remark to my daughter how beautiful the Catholic rituals are. I know the royals (some) mess up pretty badly but not for not getting a good start. It was moving when the priest made the sign of the cross on the babies' foreheads in a mini ceremony before they entered the cathedral.

22 posted on 06/22/2015 7:58:35 PM PDT by Aliska
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I hope you are wrong but the Black Lives Matter people have put graffiti on many Charleston statues.


23 posted on 06/22/2015 8:05:23 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Jan_Sobieski

We can count on pResident Golfbug to calm everybody down, yeah ... s///


24 posted on 06/22/2015 9:04:31 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Aliska

The three bishops were the notorious homosexual, Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, always eager to help out with a pro-abortion Catholic’s funeral.

The Bishop of Wilmington, Malooly.

The Papal Nuncio, Archbishop Vigano.

The worst enemy of the pro-life movement, for the last fifty years, has been the Catholic hierarchy.


25 posted on 06/22/2015 9:51:23 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
I heard of the first one but am not familiar with the other two. Thanks.

"worst enemy of the pro-life movement . . .", how so? I thought Paul VI with the encyclical Humanae Vitae made it clear, maybe didn't address abortion. I never read it through but am aware of the strict rules about birth control.

Will go OT for a sec. I was thinking about birth control and what the new pope has written. It's contradictory imo.

Anyway, there is much to be negative (and disappointed about) but I try to find positive things. I've been inactive for some years over conflicts but the new mass suited me when done reverently. I still can recite parts of it from memory. So it makes it impossible for me to try to adjust to any other church, even the Orthodox. 'Nuf on that.

That's been a huge thorn in my side. The church teaches, then the high profile people rebel against it and are never, ever disciplined. I mean either you are a Catholic or you aren't. If you choose your political career over your church, why not do the honest thing and get out? Instead they are driving others out. And it's amazing how some don't seem to care (high profile male converts). Larry Kudlow raves about the church; I do find him quite affable and can understand why since he was delivered from addictions.

My life is a testimony of pro life in a most difficult way. And I'm not pro-life only because of what the church teaches. It's personal. But I do get weary of it being tied to politics (and I won't vote for a Democrat for that and other reasons) when I know we are going to be stuck with abortion until the return of Christ. And it's sad but I just quietly believe what i believe. I don't want to carry the anger I have in the past and have overcome much of it thankfully.

I saw your angry post about how the pope's stance will cause many, many deaths. And it was quite sobering. I do try to think things through to the inevitable conclusion but was unable to see what you did.

26 posted on 06/22/2015 10:20:26 PM PDT by Aliska
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The teaching of the Church is not what I’m referring to.

I’m referring to the fact that, when abortion first appeared on the radar, in 1969, 90% of the Catholic bishops had grown up in a household in which the father was a member of a union. They were all Democrats. They refused to do anything that might harm a Democrat’s election chances.

Of course, Cardinal Bernardin was simply pro-abortion. He invented the “Seamless Garment” as an elaborate rationalization for Catholics to vote for Democrats—because the Republicans wanted to BLOW UP THE WORLD.

In 1984, Archbishop Roach of Mpls/St. Paul hugged Walter Mondale in public, and these were his exact words: “This is the real pro-life candidate. He’s against nuclear war.”

The Pope’s encyclical will function in the same way. It’s okay for Catholics to vote for pro-aborts, because the “conservatives” want to destroy the world with carbon!

Even today, there are major bishops like Cardinal Dolan who believe if they pulled the lever for a Republican, their arm will turn black and fall off. Dolan, O’Malley, McCarrick, etc., etc., never miss a funeral of a pro-abortion Catholic. Only about ten bishops in the U.S. don’t allow pro-aborts to receive Communion.

Allowing a pro-abort to receive Communion is a mortal sin. Do the bishops care? Not a bit.

Every single bishop in the U.S. was mailed this article in 2007. Some bishops took it to heart, but mostly what it accomplished was to make Raymond Burke the most hated bishop in American (among the rest of the bishops).

http://tinyurl.com/canon915


27 posted on 06/22/2015 11:02:37 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Obama doing the eulogy is akin to spitting on their lives.


28 posted on 06/23/2015 3:38:25 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Gots to go stir that racial pot there quota boy?


29 posted on 06/23/2015 3:45:21 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ( Obammy is a lie, a mooselimb and pond scum.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
I'm sorry I didn't get the point before. That makes it more clear; thank you for explaining it.

I had a Catholic friend who was very pro life, and she could no longer vote Democrat as her large family had done. But she couldn't bring herself to vote for a Republican either so didn't vote.

Democrats make wars just the same, if not more, than Republicans. Well, those pro abortion bishops rationalize and lie. And the penalty for unrepentent liars is in Revelation.

I liked Bishop Burke and Chaput, don't know any other pro-life bishops.

They have to know it's excommunication latae sententiae (sp?) for anyone who procures an abortion. Well canon law excommunicates any of the clergy who teach heresy.

I bookmarked the link article by Most Rev Burke. I remember reading on FR that he had been demoted but it appears he may keep the title Cardinal.

Anyway, it's not about liberal or conservative. It's about Truth. And it's not about being mean or not being mean; it's about charity. And true charity doesn't want anyone to receive unworthily because they could get sick and die although I haven't seen that happen to where I could relate it to sin, as demonstrated by long life and health of public Catholics, so it must be about spiritual sickness and death (which eventually affects the body).

30 posted on 06/23/2015 8:44:17 PM PDT by Aliska
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I don’t know how many Cardinals have been booted out of the College of Cardinals. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was zero, and I would be shocked if it was more than two. Once they are in, there are basically no standards. Some of the wickedest men in history have been Cardinals, and nothing was ever done about them.

Cardinal Burke was “chief justice” of the Church—Prefect of the Apostolic Signatura. He argued against the election of Bergoglio in the Conclave, so Bergoglio got his revenge. He made Burke the Cardinal Protector of the Knights of Malta, a job that usually goes to an 80-year-old. Burke is 66.


31 posted on 06/23/2015 11:06:38 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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