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Why Nikki Haley is smart to want to remove South Carolina’s Confederate flag
WaPo ^ | 6/22/15 | Philip Bump

Posted on 06/22/2015 11:48:57 AM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson

Edited on 06/22/2015 12:13:58 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: hotsteppa

Haley is the RINO who endorsed Mitt over Newt in SC. Newt won SC anyway. :-)


61 posted on 06/22/2015 12:43:01 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: napscoordinator
"You just HATE hearing the truth. There is just something about you that likes to hear sunny rainbow platitudes. I can imagine how your Husband got you to marry you....Oh honey I am going to be a doctor and provide you with millions of dollars with a lot of kids and we will live in a mansion and vacation in the Hamptons and take annual European Vacations......then reality hit you over the head after you married him and he ended up working at Joe’s Crab Shack as the dishwasher while you live in a trailer park with one kid and vacation at the In law’s every other year...........I am hardly kidding because you are living in some kind of fantasy land where you just gobble up whatever bull crap comes your way. I just never met anyone who HATES hearing the truth. It is stunning."

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62 posted on 06/22/2015 12:50:51 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")))
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To: Mollypitcher1

Okay ... if flying the Confederate Flag is a 1st Amendment issue ... burning the US Flag is a 1st Amendment issue ... right? You would be just fine watching someone burn the US Flag ... right?

To me ... both are an issue of just because you can .... doesn’t mean you should.


63 posted on 06/22/2015 12:50:52 PM PDT by conservaKate
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

It’s not a confederate flag.


64 posted on 06/22/2015 12:52:49 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson
"Lordy, [stuff] just got real"?

LOL, didn't it, though

65 posted on 06/22/2015 12:53:08 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")))
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To: yarddog

Secessionism is no longer a valid point of view. The issue was settled with blood. You should understand why the vast majority of Americans view the flag of rebellion and secession with repugnance.
As for what Lee or Grant thought of slavery, who cares. The Union was preserved and slavery was abolished.


66 posted on 06/22/2015 12:53:18 PM PDT by maro (what did the President know and when did he know it?)
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To: livius
It's up to the people and their representatives in South Carolina. Much like the owner of the Washington Redskins who wants to keep that name and mascot, more power to him. Just because someone like Harry Reid gets their PC underpanties all in a twist over it, doesn't mean it's wrong.

I'm from Arizona and several other states in the west, live in Florida but have lived in South Carolina, as well. From my personal experience, most people who display the Confederate flag or stickers or decals of it, are just folks who identify with their southern heritage and roots and are neither bigots or racists.

I don't care one way of the other. The flag will probably come down from atop the state house eventually because of political correctness. But it won't stop folks from displaying it all over the south.

67 posted on 06/22/2015 12:56:12 PM PDT by HotHunt
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68 posted on 06/22/2015 12:59:28 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

When the Washington Compost praises a politician in the South, you are finished. Remember that Governor.


69 posted on 06/22/2015 1:00:53 PM PDT by armydawg505
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To: VRWCmember

We just don’t have the media showing these photos, instead CBS this morning tied the murders to Ted Cruz by saying he received a donantion from someone referenced by the mad kid.


70 posted on 06/22/2015 1:01:55 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson; flaglady47; mickie; pax_et_bonum; Maine Mariner; ExTexasRedhead; ...
Smart move by the governor. She got in front of something that was going to happen anyway. Too many conservatives know nothing of big-league inside political maneuvering, everything is black or white....my way or the highway....or you're toast.

Smart, successful politicians many times take one for the Gipper to get two back later. There's much to be said for the old saw, "win some, lose some, but live to fight another day".

Too many conservatives, who like nothing more than to immediately leap to eat their own without pausing to intellectually connect this dot and that, always love to decry their own conservative representatives as being lousy strategists and lousier tacticians....but when one of them, like Miss Nikki, actually pulls the rug right out from under a juicily-brewing liberal cause celebre at little to no cost to herself and her party, and the libs are deflected and are left fighting air, the tory knives and forks to jab her come out faster than a Twinkie would remain intact at a Weight Watchers meeting.

With this move, the governor cut further losses from a situation that could have no victors in the end, anyhow.

I swear that some posters here would have the GOP lose the governorship of this crucial state than to use strategic political forward thinking to undercut and stymie the enemies of the Republic.

Good for Governor Haley!

Leni

71 posted on 06/22/2015 1:04:41 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: entropy12

But only ONE flag, The Old Glory meaning stars and stripes for ever, should fly on government buildings.

And how long do you think it be will before someone or some group asks for its’ removal?


72 posted on 06/22/2015 1:14:43 PM PDT by pugmama
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To: MNDude

Bingo!


73 posted on 06/22/2015 1:15:12 PM PDT by pugmama
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To: maro
To me, it stands for slavery and secession. I disapprove of both.

Whether it stands for slavery and secession to you or for rainbows and unicorns, your perception of the flag and what it stands for is of great importance to your mind and of little importance to others. To conservatives (especially hard-line Constitutional conservatives who still believe the Bill of Rights meant what it said) in the south, the confederate flag stands for the 10th Amendment, and for the rights and powers of the States to decide matters not delegated by the Constitution to the federal Congress. While the institution of slavery and the rights of the states to secede from the union were major issues leading to the War of Northern Aggression, they were not the only issues. To southerners, the confederate flag stands for pride in our southern heritage, for rugged individualism and a rural/agrarian culture rather than an industrial/mechanical culture, for self-determination rather than subservience to the dictates of Washington and a northeastern consortium of oligarchs. If you have bought into the idea that because some loud racists have hijacked our flag for their agenda that the flag stands for that agenda, then nothing any southerner can say will change your mind; but we will not let you or anyone else dictate to us what the flag stands for.

Once again, I will share this pic because it makes a good point:

74 posted on 06/22/2015 1:17:49 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: entropy12

Freepers are actually agreeing with this political farce. Figures the southern haters had to chine in.


75 posted on 06/22/2015 1:17:53 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

What’s your take on this LG


76 posted on 06/22/2015 1:18:16 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade
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To: maro

You stand for historical stupidity and tyranny I disapprove of both.


77 posted on 06/22/2015 1:19:54 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

Yeah, I’m 73, should have added that to the list...the list grows daily.


78 posted on 06/22/2015 1:20:53 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else!)
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To: conservaKate

The state flags of a few southern states have a form of the confederate battle flag incorporated into their designs. Are you saying that you believe these states should change their state flags to purge any form of the confederacy from their flag designs?


79 posted on 06/22/2015 1:22:02 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember; maro

The “Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union” makes it clear that the reason South Carolina seceded was slavery

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_scarsec.asp


80 posted on 06/22/2015 1:22:07 PM PDT by FewsOrange
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