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Which Republican presidential candidates support amnesty?
http://www.americanthinker.com ^ | March 1, 2015 | Pedro Gonzales

Posted on 06/19/2015 9:39:51 AM PDT by Beowulf9

Which Republican presidential candidates support amnesty? I have analyzed all the major Republican presidential candidates (except Ben Carson and Rick Sanctorum, who are long shots, and Donald Trump, who has undocumented hair). I have found that all the major presidential candidates support amnesty for illegal aliens, except for one. Can you guess which one?

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To: C. Edmund Wright
But, as opposed to Ted Cruz, most of US would cut them off completely from society here.

NO government bennies.

No Greencard.

Prison for those who employ them.

21 posted on 06/19/2015 9:58:26 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Beowulf9

Easier to ask, “Which ones don’t?”.....................


22 posted on 06/19/2015 10:03:43 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

LOL

Evidently you buy into La Raza’s mindset. I don’t.

As a nation we have a right to determine our own immigration policies.

We are not obliged to allow our nation to be occupied by foreigners at will.

Since you’ve obviously given up, remain silent on the subject and let others do the heavy lifting for you.

Don’t bother to reply. On this subject you’re a loser.


23 posted on 06/19/2015 10:05:21 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: Mariner

And prison for those who rent to them.

It’s time to take this nation back!


24 posted on 06/19/2015 10:06:47 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: DoughtyOne

That’s stupid. I don’t like this reality. I am not saying anything that is pro La Raza. I am simply stating facts. You are not man enough to recognize them.

And yes we have a right to determine our own laws, but many many millions do not AGREE WITH US on what those should be. Sorry, they don’t. Get your head out of the sand.

ANd I have not given up...I understand that if you could get rid of benefits, say no never ever to citizenship or voting under any circumstance, and secured the border, that this would solve the majority of the problem in a few years.

In other words, I have a plan, and you have a fantasy. And to show how weak your argument is intellectually, you have to accuse me of really ridiculous leanings.


25 posted on 06/19/2015 10:09:20 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Why won’t it happen? Eisenhower deported illegals in the 50’s....The US population would support this even if the political class (our overlords (sic)) won’t.


26 posted on 06/19/2015 10:10:31 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare berry bear formerly known as Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: Mariner; C. Edmund Wright

Our nation absolutely could deport all the illegals IF we so desired. Think of all the jobs that would be created by doing such.

That said, due to the sick mindset of the nation, that will gladly spend billions on bringing more illegals into the country, deporting them on a large scale prolly isn’t going to happen.

However, the ease and simplicity in which we could set up a system that would make illegals eagerly desire to head back home, and employers scared to death to hire illegals, is just sitting there waiting for some genuine leader to get behind it and give it the green light.


27 posted on 06/19/2015 10:10:36 AM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Mariner

I am in favor of no govt bennies. In fact, I think that’s the single most effective step we could take. I think that alone would solve a huge huge piece of this.

I’m not sure where Cruz is on that particular issue.

As for putting the employers in jail, I think it’s really shameful that you would demand that private companies do what our government has not done for 70 years. Shameful. The employment situation is caused by government, and only reacted to by companies for the most part. (The Chamber types advocating for amnesty are the exception here...).

You want the very same government that gives overly generous welfare payments to both legals and illegals, forces unionization in some states, has refused to secure the border for decades, and which allows sanctuary cities..THAT SAME government is your tool for solving this by punishing businesses? Yeah, that’ll work out.


28 posted on 06/19/2015 10:12:59 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Carthego delenda est
Our nation absolutely could deport all the illegals IF we so desired.

Well that's the biggest part of the problem...as a nation, we do NOT desire it. It's like over 60 per cent against. That's the "nation" you refer to.

But it couldn't be done anyway. Consider the Nazi regime and the "final solution" - NOT MORALLY, just LOGISTICALLY - look at how massive an undertaking it was to deport just 6 million people - who were in a smaller geographic area, had no advocates inside the government, and among whom there was no difference between legal and illegal status.

The effort helped destroyed their economy and war effort to even try it, and their task was infinitely easier...infinitely easier than what you are advocating.

29 posted on 06/19/2015 10:16:59 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: gwgn02

Anyone here by hook or crook will be able to stay here AND WORK AND ANCHOR BABY. Amnesty word games are getting old.


30 posted on 06/19/2015 10:20:50 AM PDT by magna carta
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To: C. Edmund Wright
That’s stupid. I don’t like this reality. I am not saying anything that is pro La Raza. I am simply stating facts.

You're simply stating the La Raza line.  I don't buy into it.  Look at the terrible ramifications of illegal immigration and tell me we have to live with it.  No.  I'm not buying what you're peddling.

You are not man enough to recognize them.

It doesn't take a man to accept something negative.  In fact it takes something less than a man on this subject to accept the negative.

It takes a man to stand up to what is taking place.  You know that.


And yes we have a right to determine our own laws, but many many millions do not AGREE WITH US on what those should be. Sorry, they don’t. Get your head out of the sand.

My head isn't in the sand, and it isn't where yours is on this subject, thank you very much...

ANd I have not given up...

Oh please, good grief, read your own comments.

I understand that if you could get rid of benefits, say no never ever to citizenship or voting under any circumstance, and secured the border, that this would solve the majority of the problem in a few years.

Yes, mainly because repatriation would eliminate the need to deport.

1. Stop the freebies.
2. Resume enforcing work place guidelines.
3. Start prosecuting people and businesses that are aiding illegal immigratnts
4. Pass a clarification clause to the 14th Ammendment that clearly states a person must be on U. S. soil legally, before their born child is considered a U. S. Citizen.

I only add in numbe four, because the 14th has been misinterpreted by convenience, and that needs to end right now.

In other words, I have a plan, and you have a fantasy. And to show how weak your argument is intellectually, you have to accuse me of really ridiculous leanings.


You have no plan.  You're comments simply state that there is nothing that can be done, those people are here and are going to stay here.

You are just like all the other people I have delt with on this topic over the decades.  There is always a reason why we can't do what is right.

As I said, on this topic you're a loser.

31 posted on 06/19/2015 10:22:40 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: DoughtyOne

Exactly. Very well written.


32 posted on 06/19/2015 10:27:08 AM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Beowulf9

Remember Eisenhower and ‘operation wetback’?

Then, they only deported FOUR MILLION of ‘em.

That means that we could never, never ever, not even possible, no way in hell even consider the possibility that it could be done again.

Right??


33 posted on 06/19/2015 10:34:57 AM PDT by Flintlock (Our soapbox is gone, the ballot box stolen--we're left with the bullet box now.)
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To: Mariner

All it takes to turn a FReeper Pro-Illegal is for their candidate to be Pro-Illegal. Principles be damned.


34 posted on 06/19/2015 10:35:35 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Beowulf9

I can show an easier way to tell which candidates support amnesty. Watch their language, such as: “Once we have the fence/border under control, we can have a conservation of what to do with the illegals already here.” That is dead ringer talk for amnesty. We should have the conservation today, along with enforcement of immigration laws.


35 posted on 06/19/2015 10:38:17 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Carthego delenda est; C. Edmund Wright

Thank you.

Wright is a good person. I’m not here to give good people a hard time. This is a subject that has been my top priority since around 1995, when I realized what was taking place.

I won’t accept this, ever.

I will not, in fact cannot accept the illegals remaining here.

It is against our nation’s laws.
It is very destructive.
It is unfair to the following entities.

The Citizens of the United States
Future generations of U. S. Citizens
Other foreign nationals desiring equal access to the United States.
And ultimately to the very nation itself.

The U. S. is not better situated by allowing this. It is damaged by it.


36 posted on 06/19/2015 10:43:01 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
"As for putting the employers in jail, I think it’s really shameful that you would demand that private companies do what our government has not done for 70 years. Shameful. The employment situation is caused by government, and only reacted to by companies for the most part. (The Chamber types advocating for amnesty are the exception here...)."

When you want to clear out a pocket of prostitution in your home town, you prosecute both the whore and the John.

And you put everbody's name and picture on the local news.

It's a STANDARD and well accepted enforcement mechanism, but all the Johns REALLY hate it and think it's unfair.

37 posted on 06/19/2015 10:50:28 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

They won’t even use the words “self deport”. We have to apply heat. Ask them if they won’t deport 11 million illegals then who/how many will they deport. Don’t just throw your hands up in the air.

You give up too easy.


38 posted on 06/19/2015 10:50:30 AM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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To: C. Edmund Wright

For once we agree. The border may well be secured by somebody as it should be. But nobody but nobody could withstand the blistering hysteria than would ensue at the mere mention of Operation Wetback II.

So the best you can hope for is a candidate who really will keep another wave of undesirables from flowing across.

The only two I that I have heard express any real sincerity on this issue are Cruz and Trump.


39 posted on 06/19/2015 10:59:29 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Mariner

Well, I guess we have no one who is running who holds your position on illegal immigration? Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for deporting them kit and kaboodle, but who is saying that ?


40 posted on 06/19/2015 11:25:45 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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