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To: Finny
Any late-arriving Bandidos drove right past a whole lotta marked cop cars. And in a sense, even dwelling on it is like missing the forest for the study of the trees.

Of course, people come at this from different places with different assumptions and different priorities. I am less interested in the motorcycle club aspect per se than I am in the legal aspect and the actual actions of the police.

Trying to sort out what Cossacks and Bandidos had going on with their relationship has only limited interest to me. And, I believe has only a secondary importance to the larger issues in play. Because, I believer the larger issues are larger by a HUGE factor. And when I read the Waco editorial writer opine:

"The key thing local authorities addressing the Twin Peaks saga should remember is that what transpired May 17; the million-dollar bonds subsequently set; and justifiable questions about due process are altogether unprecedented in this context and scope. How all this is handled by police, the district attorney and the courts will define, possibly for years, not only our criminal justice system but Waco."

well, when I read that I have hope that the larger acpects of this will not get swept under the rug.

65 posted on 06/19/2015 4:19:13 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o
You are exactly right -- forest for the trees. It's not about biker gangs, it's about extreme abuse of due process.

THAT SAID -- the utter bizarreness of the entire pretense for this happening, the supposed "escalating turf war" between a well-known long-established Hells Angeles-type club and a nobody club newly and solely defined as "criminal" by "police experts" but otherwise off the radar, FURTHER indicates that the motor cycle club aspects were HOW these larger issues were manipulated to come into play in the first place. In other words, the bizarreness of the circumstances indicates that this was CONTRIVED and CREATED in order to carry out this exercise in the CLEAR abuse of due process.

don-o, REGARDLESS NOW of what does or doesn't get swept under the rug, it's too late to prevent this from successfully happening AGAIN with some minor variations, and 100 or more lives destroyed. I think of a certain recreational club I belong to that is focused on firearms.

This Waco thing PROVES that I and everyone else in my club could be financially and professionally destroyed at the whim of the Feds with the help of crooked law enforcement, EVEN IF WE ENDED UP BEING FOUND INNOCENT, and people like FReepers right here would say, "Well, it's too bad and everything, but law enforcement says this was a club of no-gooders so it's a matter of lying down with dogs and waking up with fleas, too bad, so sad." As one of those types said yesterday, this story is becoming a non-story because "cooler heads" are prevailing. THAT IS WHY IT IS TOO LATE, and "we" have already lost.

That is why it is the most important domestic story in the news today, and why the fact that is being so UTTERLY ignored means ... it was successful, even if 90 percent of the people arrested are found totally innocent.

67 posted on 06/19/2015 7:27:17 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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