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When Did Gun Control Start In America?
gunsnfreedom.com ^ | 6/17/2015 | Tim

Posted on 06/17/2015 9:02:29 AM PDT by rktman

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To: rktman

Fascism was all the rage in the 1930’s.


21 posted on 06/17/2015 9:26:33 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: rktman

I believe the invention of the Derringer led to the first concealed weapon laws: in Alabama in the 1840’s, I think.


22 posted on 06/17/2015 9:28:41 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: rktman

Western “law” wasn’t the law. The reason Western Sheriffs were so heavy handed in violating the US Constitution is because those towns were basically lawless. It was every man for himself. So those Sheriffs just made up law out of whole cloth and it was might vs. might — the might of the Sheriffs and judges vs. the might of the lawless elements in their towns.

For a long time there, there was no “law” west of the Mississippi except what the Sheriffs of the towns could enforce. And very often they were corrupt themselves.


23 posted on 06/17/2015 9:29:02 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Lord God help us.)
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"So, the Clantons and Lowreys were 2nd amendment supporters and the Earp’s were old timey bloombergs?"

Nahh, the Earps were just pissed that Ike Clanton had been claiming all night long that he was going to shoot on sight the first Earp he saw.

24 posted on 06/17/2015 9:29:21 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: rktman

1920s here in Michigan.

A black man (Ossian Sweet) defended himself against a Detroit mob trying to drive him out of “their” neighborhood. He killed one and was acquitted of murder.

It was only a matter of weeks before legislation started showing up in Lansing calling for standards of who can own a gun. It resulted in the first gun boards which pretty much always denied blacks.


25 posted on 06/17/2015 9:30:56 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: A Navy Vet

A tag shouldn’t be needed discussing an obviously fictional movie. It should be common knowledge. There are always some who will be out of the loop, but he didn’t need a tag for what most everyone should know is fictional and is easy to verify on a quick internet search.


26 posted on 06/17/2015 9:30:56 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Lord God help us.)
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To: A Navy Vet
No, it's absolutely true.

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27 posted on 06/17/2015 9:32:43 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: pierrem15

There was also some efforts at “knife control” due to the carnage of the “Sand Bar Duel/Fight” where Jim Bowie used his knife to great effect. Mostly, like gun control, all it did was make people want Bowie knives.


28 posted on 06/17/2015 9:35:59 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: rktman

Weren’t there a number of gun control laws passed in the Reconstruction era in the South which aimed to disarm blacks? Can’t think of anything before that, offhand.


29 posted on 06/17/2015 9:39:44 AM PDT by Johnny Navarone
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To: Lazamataz

You can have my spear when you pry it from the cold dead bowels of that T-rex over there.


30 posted on 06/17/2015 9:42:04 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: rktman

I thought gun control started with the British. I thought they tried to disarm the colonists, and the colonists said molon labe.


31 posted on 06/17/2015 9:43:12 AM PDT by Mark17 (Through all my days, and then in Heaven above, my song will silence never, I'll worship Him forever)
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To: rktman

The reason for gun control in the old West was the same as for now.

The idea was for those in power and with money to stay that way.

The cowboys came into town and the town wanted the cowboys money. The would get it by fair or foul means. Now if the cowboys were all armed, it made it much more difficult to steal from them or cheat them.


32 posted on 06/17/2015 9:43:30 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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"So, the Clantons and Lowreys were 2nd amendment supporters and the Earp’s were old timey bloombergs?"

You forgot your sarcasm tab. The Clantons and McLaurys were rustler bandit types who brought their gangster ways into Tombstone. The Earps arrived and only wanted to make their fortunes and live in peace with their brothers and wives.

The Cowboys (new term for cow pokes and/or cow rustlers) took umbrage with the Earps' quick financial success and political support. They thought they owned the town. Virgil and Wyatt Earp's reputations of being no-nonsense lawmen is just what the town was looking for to become more civilized. From there the feud built and we know the result.

The Mayor and not Virgil Earp (like in the movie) instituted the No Guns Within Town Limits ordinance. Now think how small that town was and how the Cowboys ran rough-shed over the town before the Earps' arrival.

Interestingly, while many small frontier towns needed such restrictions within town limits, I now promote open carry in Detroit, Chicago, Philly, St. Louis, DC et al. Sounds hypocritical, but compare and contrast.

33 posted on 06/17/2015 9:48:37 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: rktman

I would say with the Earp brothers in the 1870’s. The reason for the “shoot out at OK Corral” was the failure of the loses to surrender firearms upon entering town.


34 posted on 06/17/2015 9:52:59 AM PDT by exnavy (socialism and communism are indistinguishable.)
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"Virgil Cole..."

That would be Virgil Earp, the Marshal of Tombstone. Wyatt was his deputy as was brother Morgan. See my post above regarding the need for gun-control in frontier outlaw towns.

35 posted on 06/17/2015 9:56:24 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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"A tag shouldn’t be needed discussing an obviously fictional movie. It should be common knowledge. There are always some who will be out of the loop, but he didn’t need a tag for what most everyone should know is fictional and is easy to verify on a quick internet search."

Well, exuuuuuussse me. Sorry I don't Google every time I post to just ask a question.

36 posted on 06/17/2015 9:59:47 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet

Virgil Cole was the town marshal of Appaloosa Texas. His deputy was Virgil Hitch a former US Army officer who preferred an 8 gage to a .45

(both are fictional characters of a series by Robert B Parker)


37 posted on 06/17/2015 10:06:48 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

It isn’t our job to know your movie watching preferences and history, nor to share them.


38 posted on 06/17/2015 10:26:14 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: rktman
The Racist Roots of Gun Control.

SYG, Castle Doctrine and other self defense laws have roots in the push back against Jim Crow laws. Yet today's “black leaders” line up to help the Progressives destroy all of the progress made to secure black families.

The Castle Doctrine & Stand Your Ground – The Trial of Dr. Ossian Sweet TheConservativeTreeHouse

No Guns for Negroes Part One (video 10:00)

No Guns for Negroes Part Two (video 9:45)

Equal Gun Rights (video 0:52)

The Never Again Campaign (video 0:30)

The NRA Was Created To Protect Freed Slaves From The KKK & The Democratic Party, and Everyone Else From a Tyrannical Government LiveLeaks video 3:08

39 posted on 06/17/2015 10:29:02 AM PDT by TigersEye (If You Are Ignorant, Don't Vote!)
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People forget that a lot of their western examples, are examples from frontier territories, which involves different levels of law, and obedience to law, and adherence to the constitution.


40 posted on 06/17/2015 10:29:49 AM PDT by ansel12
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