[Finny]

Wow. You are spoon-fed pre-processed news just like it was baby food. You are so fabulously, ridiculously obtuse, thinking in terms of "wanna-be bad boys" -- factor, I don't know what attic or basement you live in, but I live in the real world where even the wanna-be "bad boys" have criminal records; as for the real bad boys in biking, they ALL have criminal records that are distinguished and include juvenile crime.

THEREFORE, lack of a criminal record, as with TWO THIRDS of the folks who were arrested, proves to ME, a person who actually lives, breathes, lives and loves real people in the real world, that two third of them were just ... bikers, not even wanna-be bad boys. It's pretty obvious.

I am as naïve as a baby when it comes to NYC -- you are from there or live there, correct? -- and I could easily be duped regarding anything to do with NYC culture; I know it. YOU are as naïve when it comes to Harley riders -- the difference is you don't know it.

[trisham]

Maybe you should try again, with a reasoned and thoughtful argument.

[thefactor]

In a weird way you kinda proved my point. I'm saying there was PC to arrest all bikers at the scene. You saying that most of them have criminal records just adds value to my claim.

And just because someone doesn't have a criminal history doesn't immediately exclude them from prosecution. That's where facts and evidence come in.

I mean, come on. There were NINE dead bodies in a parking lot of a restaurant! And if you were part of a gang that contributed to those deaths, even if it ends up that you weren't directly involved in violence, you need to be investigated. And bail needs to be set in a way to discourage you jumping it. These guys are known to be transient. Many of them, anyway.