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Business groups vow: Trade pact will not die
The Hill ^ | 06/16/2015 | Vicki Needham and Peter Schroeder

Posted on 06/16/2015 4:14:49 AM PDT by GIdget2004

Business groups are expressing renewed determination to push trade legislation to President Obama’s desk, vowing to stop the House from writing the epitaph of a sweeping Asia-Pacific pact that was years in the making.

From industry groups including the Chamber of Commerce and the National Association of Manufacturers (NAM), to the various coalitions that have formed to press for trade promotion authority (TPA), the overwhelming response to Friday’s failure in the House is one of defiance.

“Manufacturers will not back down in this fight for expanded trade, for the future of our industry and our country,” NAM said in a statement. Labor unions and other opponents of trade promotion authority, or fast-track, are equally determined to fight and are leaning on Democrats to hold firm.

“We know that corporate interests that have been pushing fast-track … for years are not stopping,” said Neil Sroka, spokesman for the liberal Democracy for America. “So neither are we.”

The two sides in the trade debate have been battling for months, waging a war of words with staggering amounts of money, manpower and advertising.

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1 posted on 06/16/2015 4:14:49 AM PDT by GIdget2004
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To: GIdget2004
Just as Lou Dobbs says the Chamber of Commerce and Business Round table are not friends of the US.
2 posted on 06/16/2015 4:17:57 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: scooby321

What a choice. Siding with labor unions and dem congressmen. Or siding with Obama.


3 posted on 06/16/2015 4:21:55 AM PDT by dp0622
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To: GIdget2004

Trade makes the world go round.

The pacific rim is where the growth in trade is going to be

America should enhance trade with the Pacific Rim Nations


4 posted on 06/16/2015 4:25:27 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: dp0622

I was thinking the same thing. What a mess the country is when I agree with them.


5 posted on 06/16/2015 4:31:49 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: GIdget2004

America needs to build up America, once again.

America first.


6 posted on 06/16/2015 4:33:18 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-tradebalance/c5700.html)
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To: scooby321

Big Government, Big Business, Big Labor. The public only needs to be fed the pretense of having a “choice” in voting.

“If voting made any difference they wouldn’t let us do it.”
- Mark Twain


7 posted on 06/16/2015 4:51:29 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: bert
Can we please stop the telling the big LIE that this treason is about free trade.
There is NO FREE TRADE in this Crony Capitalism Trojan
horse cooked up by Goodman Sachs, Chamber of Crony Capitalism and phony Trade Groups run by GE and other multinational corporations.
Its a seas of protections barriers to stop free trade and benefit only the K street and WSJ elite.

What has been leaked from a secret document banned from the Little people shows the US middle class getting screwed Obama global warming taxes,
US job getting shipped overseas, Explosion of amnesty , and Giving the most far-left dangerous and radical President EVER open treaty power to add anything he wants after it voted on.

Its is a reckless and dangerous treaty meant to destroy the US laws replace it with some international court.
But You well aware of these facts and still post misinformation.
Why?

8 posted on 06/16/2015 5:02:12 AM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: ncalburt

Free trade(misnomer) is a cult.


9 posted on 06/16/2015 5:05:04 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ncalburt

because trade makes the world go round

America is a capitalist country inspite of the anticapitalists ranting over tha trade agreement


10 posted on 06/16/2015 5:07:44 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: bert
Crony capitalism is RUNNING DC and wrote this secret Trojan horse that is SO awful they are hiding it from the USA tax payers .

Crony capitalist demand a rigged market in which only they flourish and competitors dies off./> The little guy is crushed .

Why do you think Goldman Sachs is running the Slime House
http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/q42012/list-of-goldman-sachs-employees-in-the-white-house/

Why was the GE CEO practically living at the Slime House .

TPP is meant to kill off open markets and kill off small firms with rules and regulations written for massive Corporations like GE or Pfizer or Goldman Sachs or Google or Apple or VISA .

Its an anti free trade monster that our bought off DC hacks are eagerly trying to ram thru in order to get a cut and before someone leaks the whole disaster to us the screwed US middle class. But you know all this and still post some nonsense about free trade

11 posted on 06/16/2015 5:23:35 AM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: dp0622

The Unions aren’t speaking for American workers but the workers oppose TPA as well.


12 posted on 06/16/2015 5:28:56 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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To: bert

There’s a difference between capitalism and crony capitalism. Crony capitalism is fascism and is what our forefathers were fighting when they dumped the tea in Boston harbor.


13 posted on 06/16/2015 5:32:40 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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To: bert

These trade deals end up being good for the political and corporate elites and Wall Street banksters and bad for small business and the disappearing middle class.


14 posted on 06/16/2015 5:32:55 AM PDT by cp124 (Government is value subtracted.)
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To: bert

“because trade makes the world go round

America is a capitalist country inspite of the anticapitalists ranting over tha trade agreement”

Okay.
Tell us, have you read TAA, TPA, and TPP terms that are cause for concern?
Do you think We The People should know the content in bills our legislative and executive employees are authoring that will impact jobs, our economy, consumer safety, equitable trade, taxes and sovereignty?
In retrospect, was NAFTA all it should have been?
Are you good its resulting in millions of jobs that have and are being outsourced abroad, knowing that unemployed worker numbers have never been higher?
Are you okay with our hollowed out manufacturing base that presents a threat to national security?
Were our founding fathers protectionist fools for addressing foreign trade and the need for tariffs and duty to ensure economic balance?
Are the free markets we participate in truly free, and a fair level playing field?

Or should we pragmatically ram yet to be read and understood trade bills thru, and just not give a damn?
Should we adopt the attitude of all too many corporate crony CEOs about American jobs - (if the middle class is gonna drown, put a hose in their mouth)?
Do you trust Obola, dishonest RINOs, and US Chamber of Commerce corporations that would sell us out without hesitation?

Anti - capitalist, my ass.


15 posted on 06/16/2015 5:44:55 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: cp124

wrong......

I am a small businessman and am able to cope and thrive on trade deals.

Mom and Pop retail shops are gone not because of trade deals but because they are inefficient

one super walmart sells more that entire towns formerly did. Walmart does so because it can control variables mom and pop didn’t even know existed.


16 posted on 06/16/2015 5:45:44 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: GIdget2004

Those aren’t really business groups.


17 posted on 06/16/2015 5:52:46 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

The future is going to be different. Clinging to a past that is never going to repeat is foolishness.

there are young entrapraneurs building new businesses that are the future. the clamor to repatriate “lost” jobs is pointless because the reason the jobs are gone is because it was not competitive to maintain them. One can not make stuff at a loss and stay in business unless of course you are in the USSR where that was the practice for decades

then there is the rest of the world. those people are rapidly emerging into more prosperity than they could hope for say only 20 years ago. they rim the pacific. they want more. we will sell them more and more products that don’t presently exist.

America was since before day 1 seeped in “crony” capitalism. it has always been so and always will be so. If the communists and misguided isolationists get their way capitalism and America will end.

the business of America is business


18 posted on 06/16/2015 5:54:17 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: central_va

Free trade requires secret legislation? I think not.


19 posted on 06/16/2015 5:54:41 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi! My vote is going to Cruz.)
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To: bert
I am a small businessman and am able to cope and thrive on trade deals.

Me too - and I'm an abolitionist when it comes to tariffs. Somehow, a significant segment of the FR kingdom can't shake the idea that manufacturing will magically return to US shores if huge tariffs are imposed. That's the thinking of unionists, not of capitalists.

Nevertheless, this particular deal appears to be more about further empowering an already too powerful Executive branch, rather than actually getting trade deals done. Abolishing tariffs between two countries can be done in a one page, publicly available agreement - it doesn't require Obamacare-level obfuscation.

They are plotting something anti-capitalist...again.

20 posted on 06/16/2015 5:58:47 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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