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To: Fishtalk
.."current debate is over whether to even debate this, NOT to necessarily pass it."

I believe that is correct and why Cruz voted for it on the Senate side. Cruz has not committed on the final bill. And Andrew McCarthy made the analogy that a prosecutor wouldn't show his case while he was building the case. It's premature to disclose the details at this point, he explained.

Those endorsements aside; The trade agreement contains so much to do with things other than trade and certainly contains international regulation on immigration, climate, et al. Trusting Obie --who would love to tie us into lots of international laws in the name of trade ---ain't happening. Likewise, to rely on a gutless Republican congress to actually vote it down also frightens me.

And we should ask why a trade plan which is promised to help American jobs, needs a companion TAA ---which provides Assistance for displaced workers.

Nothing adds up...except greased skids for crony corporatism, which is why the unions don't like it either.

57 posted on 06/14/2015 7:51:55 AM PDT by chiller (One from the Right - One for the Fight)
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To: chiller

I am truly at the point now that I do not trust the government, and all of the people in the government, Left OR Right.

That doesn’t mean I don’t like Ted Cruz over Jeb Bush or Hillary, but if I’m going to be screwed I want it from a known enemy; not the ones that I thought had my back...

So who does this bill(s) please, individual conservatives or the Chamber of Commerce? Well, who has more cash to give to candidates?

I want at least an open, debatable law, and no more 1,000+ page laws. That is a monstrosity—no one is smart enough, not even Senator Cruz, to know all the ramifications of 1,000’s of pages of rules and regulations, or even what the unintended consequences might be. Consider just how the government screws us with the EPA, Endangered Feces Act (Hat tip to Emily LaTella) and the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA).


75 posted on 06/14/2015 8:29:27 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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