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Trans-Pacific Partners (TPP) Countries: Comparative Trade and Economic Analysis
Congressional Research Service ^ | June 10, 2013 | Brock R. Williams

Posted on 06/13/2015 11:59:47 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) is a proposed regional free trade agreement (FTA) among 12 countries: Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, the United States, and Vietnam.

The negotiating partners have expressed an interest in allowing this proposed “living agreement” to cover new trade topics and to include new members that are willing to adopt the proposed agreement’s high standards. Japan is the most recent country to seek entry into the TPP. The Administration gave Congress notice of its intent to negotiate with Japan in the TPP on April 24, 2013......


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fasttrack; tpa; tpp; trade
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thus, assuming the House honors that public commitment...

And isn’t that the nut of the problem? No part of elected government has been honoring their commitments.


121 posted on 06/14/2015 5:36:20 AM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"...only Congress can change U.S. law."

What about Amending/changing enumerated powers of the Constitution like fast tracking tries to get around?

Trade agreements are sovereign vs. sovereign(s), therefore should come under the rules of Article II, S. 2, C 2.

Federalist 75 points this out, while Anit-Federalist 75 argued that the HOR should be involved. In the end, neutrality between the Executive and the Legislature was preferred as the logical conclusion.
122 posted on 06/14/2015 5:40:24 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: P-Marlowe
"The ONLY reason anyone on this forum is trying to justify a vote for TPA is because Ted Cruz voted for it."

No, CW is supporting Walker who is on record as being in favor TPA. She was relatively silent on this issue until a couple of days ago when Walker jumped the shark and voiced support for TPA.

TPA make passage of TPP much easier. The only purpose of TPA is to enable TPP/TAA/TISA. Congress is allowed to view only the TPP document, congress is not allowed to view TAA or TiSA. Why anyone would support enabling secret treaties that they are not allowed to know the contents of is a mystery to me. And given who is negotiating for the USA it is almost criminal for any constitution loving American to support it.

Walker, Ryan and Cruz have all jumper the shark and reveal themselves as globalists not Constitutionalist.

123 posted on 06/14/2015 6:01:47 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: P-Marlowe

except that a vote for TPA is the correct way to go


124 posted on 06/14/2015 6:05:19 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: jpsb
Walker, Ryan and Cruz have all jumper the shark and reveal themselves as globalists not Constitutionalist.

Correct. Giving Jindal a hard second look.

125 posted on 06/14/2015 6:06:27 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Sirius Lee

Walker and Cruz used to be on my list, I will be having a look at Jindal too.


126 posted on 06/14/2015 6:26:35 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: jpsb

So am I.

As of a few days ago, I had stopped looking for a candidate.....that’s how much I thought of Cruz.

Now my confidence is shaken........

Trust but verify.


127 posted on 06/14/2015 7:00:24 AM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do........Psalms 11:3)
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To: bert
except that a vote for TPA is the correct way to go

Even though it is a clear violation of the Constitution, correct?

Apparently you care more about giving Obama additional power to destroy the country in the next 18 months than you care about the constitution. As long as Ted Cruz is for it then "a vote for TPA is the correct way to go."

Did you take this position before you knew that Ted Cruz was going to vote in favor of it?

128 posted on 06/14/2015 7:10:44 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: nickcarraway

Interesting that they had more security for the trade treaties than the entire federal government employment database, including the one with all the data on people with security clearance.

It shows not that they can’t keep a secret, but what they consider more important.


129 posted on 06/14/2015 7:12:16 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Guenevere

Well having given this issue (Cruz TPA/TPP-TAA-TiSA) a great deal of thought I have concluded that his vote was a “honey do” thing. LOL, I could forgive him if he is humble enough to act for forgiveness. Other wise he is going to have to sell me on the merits of TPP/TAA/TiSA and that is going to be a very hard sell. A Trust Me argument is not going to work. Walker can’t claim a “honey do” excuse so he is stuck selling the merits of a secret bill he is not allowed to read. Good luck with that Walker.


130 posted on 06/14/2015 7:33:50 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: P-Marlowe

I haven’t seen the SCOTUS decision to that effect

FReeper lawyer rulings don’t count


131 posted on 06/14/2015 7:39:40 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: P-Marlowe
Oh puleeze! I got.news for ya. TPA has been around and been used by Republican presidents and supported by Republicans and conservatives from long before Ted Cruz was even a boy. It's silly and disingenuous to suggest that conservatives started supporting TPA when Ted Cruz did.
132 posted on 06/14/2015 7:41:33 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

Maybe the general distrust of all things Obama is doing good by shedding light on the travesty of “Free Trade” agreements. No more business as usual.


133 posted on 06/14/2015 7:44:18 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: P-Marlowe

If anything, it’s the far left and the Democrats and their. Corrupt labor union friends who have consistently.opposed any trade deals including TPA.


134 posted on 06/14/2015 7:44:58 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
If anything, it’s the far left and the Democrats and their. Corrupt labor union friends who have consistently.opposed any trade deals including TPA.

A broken clock....

They oppose them often for the wrong reasons.

Actually TPA is not a "trade deal". It is a process for bypassing the constitution's requirement that treaties be ratified by 2/3 of the Senate.

135 posted on 06/14/2015 7:59:42 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Nice way to avoid the question. You have kept bleating on that conservative who are Ted Cruz supporters only supported TPA because Ted Cruz supported it. Well that's just rubbish. Conservatives have been supporting TPA from long before Ted Cruz. It's been the far left that have been consistent in opposing TPA.You can't just make things up and rewrite history to suit your anti-Cruz agenda.
136 posted on 06/14/2015 8:10:43 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: P-Marlowe

If anything it’s you that sounds like a broken clock and a fanatic.


137 posted on 06/14/2015 8:12:56 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: entropy12
And Perot was right, the giant sucking sound was American jobs moving to Mexico.

Obviously.

Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National) (Select from list below)

Oops.

138 posted on 06/14/2015 8:58:37 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Rep. Ryan, Sen. Cruz, and Gov. Walker want jobs for Americans. They want the economy to grow. They want a strong America (economically as well as internationally).
They are free market capitalists. “

I guess that’s why I haven’t heard either of them speak about lowering the highest corporate tax rate in the world so that American business can compete on a level playing field. That one thing would create milions of jobs. But of course if they did that we wouldn’t need TPP.


139 posted on 06/14/2015 10:08:57 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Deflecting a discussion is the M.O. of liberals. Please do not resort to that. I never said Perot candidacy helped anything. But since I am a brutally FAIR person, and no one’s Robot, so I can admire Perot for his instinct on NAFTA.


140 posted on 06/14/2015 10:42:58 AM PDT by entropy12 (Walker wins Iowa, Jeb takes NH, Cruz wins SC, Rand wins Utah! Long slog to nomination!!)
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