Posted on 06/13/2015 12:28:01 PM PDT by Second Amendment First
MoDo watches “The Rifleman”? Doesn’t she know that his lever action is an “assault rifle”?
Sorry, but you inaccurately claim that McQueen was out acting Connors between their 2 TV series, and that isn’t even close to true.
McQueen’s overacting was something that he fixed and made work for him later, but he had not accomplished that in his 1958 TV series.
She’s got to be lying. She doesn’t know that he shoots first and asks questions later? She must have had the accidental privilege of talking to a real man about this. He misled her!
Still, ya gotta love that sawed off Winchester rifle he carried low on his hip in a custom holster. Paladin was another cool hombre with the chess piece carved on his pearl handle revolver, while dressed in all black.
The crazy old man played by Edmond O'Brien is probably my favorite character. He's got all kinds of nuance going on and is clearly not quite as crazy, drunk or broken down as one might think.
The final dramatic moment is initiated by a famous "long walk" as the bunch assembles. Peckinpah threw the scene together at the last minute, off the top of head. The guy was a genius.
This is one thing I hate about FR - I have to deal with people who know nothing about the profession but bully professionals in this arena.
Steve was on B’way prior to his tv show. Hat Full of Rain - look it UP! A charismatic, brilliant actor who made that block of wood looks like...a block of wood.
Do you think Chuck Conners could have survived on B’way? He was an athlete, for God’s sake, and a good one, who had at least one hit tv show thanks to Sam Peckinpah. I don’t know if Branded was a hit although I watched that too.
I enjoy Rifleman - I watch it as much as I watch my beloved F Troop. But I’m no fool about it either - unlike that idiot, Maureen Dowd.
My family of tv professionals - damn them - absolutely adore this movie, as does my husband. To me, it’s a little too modern, too violent, too anti-hero. But I bow to folks who know more about this than I do. I’ve got to sit down and concentrate, I guess, and see what every smart person is talking about!!!
Paladin! How I loved him! So cool and so dark!
I love the series and Steve McQueen in it, but as a big fan of his that I am, I do cringe a little sometimes when watching that series, his youth and over reaching leak through.
Palladin was an extraordinary show, it was such a sophisticated premise.
Yup, it was cutting edge and change the whole Western genre. The shootout against the Mexican army is a classic and still holds up today. Disclaimer: Yes, they were outlaws, but an engaging movie. Think it was around the time of the anti-hero theme like Easy Rider and later Taxi Driver.
My favorite modern Westerns:
Tombstone (the most accurate according to my research of the Earp saga);
Open Range (highly under-rated);
The Unforgiven.
Yeah, see, I’m old-fashioned in that way. My favorite is The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.
I’ve gotta sit down and watch The Wild Bunch through and through. I don’t know why I don’t like it - possibly because there is no hero?
I wish we freepers could start a Western Movie group. We could all fight about our favorites.
I don’t know, I feel like she is not lying. I didn’t know this was on TV on Saturday mornings, but clearly a few people here do, so I think she must really watch it.
She’s probably just got a crush on Chuck Connors, not that there’s anything wrong with that! He’s not my type, but I can see how a girl could go for him.
I watch it on ME TV here in NJ, God Be Upon it. Take my word for it, no girl, except me, is watching The Rifleman. No girl.
LOL, you are so full of yourself, I’m surprised that you can walk through a door with that ego.
One difference between the 2 shows, that were on at the same period, is, that besides the Rifleman lasting longer, it was also nominated for an Emmy, as the best Western.
You so far have not even acknowledged all those little extra motions that McQueen would do, and which were sometimes effective, and sometimes look overdone, and occasionally even silly, as in those rolling scenes that I mentioned, where he will roll too long, or even backwards, in what looks a little like Peter Sellers doing the death scene in the opening of “The Party”, except shorter of course.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVJiwuk75Ig
Steve was utterly brilliant in his handling of props. He does so in The Magnificent Seven when he shakes the bullets before he inserts them into the rifle. The way he places his hat onto his head, the way he picks up a cup of coffee. This is something that is studied in New York City acting classes - only the geniuses figure this stuff out. The rest either end up teaching or going into other professions. Chuck Conners, who I have utter respect for, had no idea about these things.
Seriously, what is your profession? I'd like to know so that I can bloviate unknowledgeably about your profession. Two can play at this. Profit and loss? Real estate? Accountancy? Engineering? I wonder what you would make of my remarks on any of these professions.
They all knew what they were getting into going up against McCain, and they all deserved what they got.
So you finally acknowledge that he does it, and that it helped in a movie with a great director and later in his career.
As I pointed out in post 42 “”McQueen’s overacting was something that he fixed and made work for him later, but he had not accomplished that in his 1958 TV series.””
It is interesting that you keep attacking Connors for his pre acting career just as you keep attacking me and freepers for what we do for a living when commenting on TV shows, and such.
Connors had a 59 year acting career, including 16 years of that career, before “The Rifleman” and that included movies TV, and plays that started in 1942.
McQueen didn’t start taking classes until 1952, and just as I pointed out, his 1958 TV series, while exciting, and he definitely had the “it” factor, his over reaching sometimes shows.
McQueen was hardly a genius. He just took direction well. Now Clint Eastwood was an acting genius at that time and still is today. Yul Brynner intensely disliked Steve McQueen and thought he was an over-rated TV actor who phoned in the performance on The Magnificent Seven. If you look at publicity photos from the movie, Steve McQueen is as far away as possible from Yul, when they should have been together (the main movie poster for that film hangs in my office). It was as if McQueen’s scenes were all editing into an already completed movie as a second thought. I guess it took more work to get McQueen’s performance on film, which irritated Brynner. McQueen gave an OK performance, but not stellar, and it could have easily been written out altogether and had no effect on the movie. McQueen did far better in a few other films to come, but Chuck Conner brought emotion to the TV screen and could act rings around McQueen early in his career.
I never said McQueen was a genius. But a fine actor and a very great star.
You guys really need to educate yourselves in the art of acting. But, of course, that is difficult, isn’t it? You’d actually have to read a book about it, wouldn’t you? You’d actually have to audit an acting class, wouldn’t you? You’d actually have to sit down and watch - at least - TCM - for a year or two to figure it out, wouldn’t you? You’d have to invest in a season of off-Broadway or Broadway or visit the Royal Shakespeare Company, the Royal National Theater or the Royal Court, wouldn’t you? But that’s too much trouble. So let’s just make stupid comments about Chuck Conners versus Steve McQueen.
Give me your profession - I’d love to make a stupid comment about your profession.
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