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To: lbryce
As a veteran urban public school teacher, I have a comment to make. In matters like this, do not assume too much.

Many folks will assume that for some reason black students are assigned ineffective teachers. There's some truth there. Beginning teachers are often “ineffective” because they are inexperienced. And they are assigned basic classes due to low seniority.

And many basic classes are heavily black. That's a tragedy, but the reasons for it are another topic.

But it's also possible (and more likely in my experience) that predominately black classes cause a good teacher to become ineffective.

We are now forced to teach a one-size-fits-all curriculum. Teachers have much less freedom to modify lesson plans. Many urban black kids desperately need that modification, but they don't get it.

Add to that the breakdown of common-sense classroom discipline, and test scores WILL go down. And so the teacher becomes ineffective.

14 posted on 06/13/2015 7:30:30 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Leaning Right

A co-worker’s daughter majored in education, got near perfect grades and a teaching certificate (she is white).

And, she went to the local school district’s booth at a job fair. She asked for basic information, as one would when visiting a job fair - and walked away from the booth with a very clear impression that they didn’t want anything to do with her. So she went on to teach at a very nice private school.

But the school district - every year we hear the same story, and the story I heard just a few months after this encounter was no different. There aren’t enough qualified teachers applying to the district (we are told this is because the pay is too low), and the district has had to hire teachers from third world armpits in Africa and South America. And the story always ends on the same note - these teachers may be inexperienced and english may be their secind language....but they will be a great addition because they bring so much diversity to the school.

In otger words, they wouldn’t give a white applicant the time of day and instead opted for diversity.

After hearing this story, I’m not surprised good teachers shy away from urban schools.


36 posted on 06/13/2015 7:55:44 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: Leaning Right

—But it’s also possible (and more likely in my experience) that predominately black classes cause a good teacher to become ineffective.-—


51 posted on 06/13/2015 8:37:45 AM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: Leaning Right

That sounds spot on, in multiple ways.


60 posted on 06/13/2015 9:01:17 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Leaning Right
Add to that the breakdown of common-sense classroom discipline

Reason number one that I would NEVER even consider teaching as a profession. The schools are so desperate for that daily attendance money they won't get rid of the trouble makers and everyone suffers for it.

93 posted on 06/13/2015 3:45:09 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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