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To: don-o; Smokin' Joe; Travis McGee

Biker gang kiss-ups and fact deniers throwing in the towel?
I have pointed out facts of this case and of bike gang behavior, each of you was asked to respond to specific points or aligations, every one of you big tough guys are instead trying, unsuccessfully I might add, to scare away us that dare show you the truth. Its plain for all to see why you sympathize with bike gang criminals.

Your weak come-backs sounds amazingly like the Iranian nuke negotiator’s ploy of “don’t try to confuse us with facts, its OUR WAY or the highway”.

As every single one of these Waco bike gang shoot ‘em up threads has shown, criminal bike gang defense is a losing argument. Thank you for continuing to reinforce everyone’s recognition of that clearly obvious conclusion.


176 posted on 06/14/2015 7:57:41 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: X-spurt

“Your weak come-backs”

Some of these dudes have spent 15 years here honing these skills.


177 posted on 06/14/2015 9:13:59 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: X-spurt

Distance????? It was another Bandidos CoC meeting! Bikers are either really dumb or part of the gang to keep attending Bandidos meetings.

“Bikers gather in Harris Co. to distance themselves from Waco”

http://www.khou.com/story/news/local/2015/06/13/bikers-gather-in-harris-co-to-distance-themselves-from-waco/71196598/


178 posted on 06/14/2015 9:18:49 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: X-spurt
I have pointed out facts of this case and of bike gang behavior,...

No, you haven't. What you have done is make a couple of vague exceptions to your rule of everyone on a motorcycle with a patch on their back, riding motorcycles down the highway in groups (incidentally, because we are easier to see as a group, can help each other in the event of mechanical problems or accidents) is part of a 'gang'.

"Gang" is a pejorative, no one in any motorcycle club refers to their organization as a "gang", whether they are Hells Angels of Christian Motorcyclists Association riders. It is a media term used to villify, and the same term applied to organized bands of street thugs like the Crips and Bloods--which is a conflation I have seen made here--and one which couldn't be farther from reality with motorcycle clubs.

... each of you was asked to respond to specific points or aligations,...

You didn't ask me. I asked you for a definition, and you came back with vague drivel.

... every one of you big tough guys are instead trying, unsuccessfully I might add, to scare away us that dare show you the truth.

What? We are going to get the keys to pop off your keyboard and beat you up? Those of us who apparently know a great deal more truth than your broad brush will ever allow are trying to keep this from becoming a witch-hunt, often because many of us here ride and have a vested interest in people not assuming that everyone on a motorcycle is some evil drug-dealing ho-pimping criminal that there ought to be open season on.

We are the ones who have spent years overcoming the Hollywood dreck just so we can get a fair shake when some jerk pulls out in front of or left-turns in front of us driving down the road, if not for us, then for the widows, widowers, and dependent children. Instead, you and others of your ilk are trying to tell us and spreading the propaganda that treating people on motorcycles as subhumans is a good thing, that depriving people of their rights as accused is okay if it is "those" people, and otherwise subverting the Constitution of the United States is just hunky-dory if it is only done to the right people.

Well, I have some news for you. Often the very people you would treat as subhumans are people who fought for those rights, a multitude of others are first responders, police, even clergy.

Yet the pejorative you apply will paint us all.

Now, I ask you again, HOW CAN YOU TELL THE "OKAY" MOTORCYCLISTS FORM THE EVIL "GANGS"?

I even turned the volume up so you could hear me over the pipes.

182 posted on 06/14/2015 10:45:31 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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