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Law Enforcement Response to Waco Shooting Raises Constitutional Questions
Breitbart Texas ^ | June 8, 2015 | Bob Price

Posted on 06/09/2015 4:16:32 AM PDT by don-o

Serious constitutional and civil rights questions have been raised regarding the blanket fill-in-the-blank arrests of 170 bikers in the wake of the Waco Twin Peaks shooting and the subsequent excessive bail that was set. Breitbart Texas investigative reporter Lee Stranahan and KTSA radio talkshow host Trey Ware recently discussed some of these issues on Ware’s morning show.

Ware, a self-admitted motorcycle enthusiast, opened the segment saying, “I have probably a greater interest in this story than most. But, it extends beyond motorcycles. My interest in this goes into civil rights. Now, I have no clue how many of those men and women who were arrested and held on a million dollar bond were actually involved in any kind of crime.”

“But, the point is, neither do the officials,” Ware continued. “And the way we don’t do things in America is cast this net and ‘haul them in and then we’ll just sort it out later’ after they’ve lost their jobs and everything else.”

Ware explained the proper procedure of identifying the individuals where reasonable suspicion suggests criminal activity. We then investigate what, if any, crimes they may have committed, and then obtaining an arrest warrant for those actually involved in crimes. “This has worked completely the opposite way, in this case,” he concluded. “That should be of concern to everyone, not just bikers.”

Entire audio of radio interview:

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: waco; wacobikers; whereistheaclu
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To: Old Sarge

21 posted on 06/09/2015 6:12:58 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: House Atreides

22 posted on 06/09/2015 6:14:26 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: sport
I haven’t read it, I trust your judgment and will take your word, but from the way you described it....,

Deciphering legalese is not my long suit (But I can understand every word of the Declaration and the Constitution. What does THAT say?)

I am trying to get up to speed on the RICO type laws. There is a lively discussion out there. My understanding of how the federal law was used to decapitate the Mafia is that prosecution was possible because of crimes that had ALREADY been committed and that higher ups, who tried to keep their hands clean, could be held responsible, as well as the trigger man.

Now, in Waco, the thinking seems to be that SOMEONE committed murder on May 17 and that someone had co-conspirators. I can understand that.

What makes no sense, is that there were 173 co-conspirators????

It is similar to the “King’s Warrants” carried be the English representatives of the Crown in colonies

Yep.

23 posted on 06/09/2015 6:16:25 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Travis McGee

Well done. Your comment shows up twice!

And speaking of Pravda, since you gave me a book recommendation (which I have on order) are you familiar with Neil Postman - “Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business”?

It was a paradigm shifter for my world view 30 years ago and his how the media (specifically television) destroys coherence and rationality is as more vital today than ever.

https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/2337731-amusing-ourselves-to-death-public-discourse-in-the-age-of-show-business


24 posted on 06/09/2015 6:28:58 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o
and his analysis of how the media (specifically television) destroys coherence and rationality....

Speaking of coherence, getting ALL the words in helps.

25 posted on 06/09/2015 6:43:55 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: House Atreides

bump


26 posted on 06/09/2015 7:04:40 AM PDT by CPT Clay
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To: Travis McGee
My comment: When are you so-called reporters going to demand to know a few basic facts in this case, facts that are certainly known to the Waco PD and ATF, such as: HOW MANY ROUNDS WERE FIRED AT THE TWIN PEAKS BY LAW ENFORCEMENT?

Eons and eons after hell freezes over.

27 posted on 06/09/2015 7:08:06 AM PDT by sport
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To: don-o

Could a society that showed both God and the Holy Bible the front door, have made the divisions of our society a reality?


28 posted on 06/09/2015 8:14:21 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: mabarker1

See post number 28 please. Thank-you!


29 posted on 06/09/2015 8:16:55 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: don-o; All
“The police played this smart,” Stranahan said. “My friend, Andrew Breitbart, used to describe the media as the ‘drive by media.’ The drive by media just means, this isn’t even a matter of bias, they just hit the story and move on.”

Yep. And for Americans who have trusted the MSM to keep them up to speed, this is still just a case of a bunch of bad guys shooting bad guys in a biker hangout, good riddance to bad rubbish, and anyone who has suspicions is either a conspiracy nut, a criminal biker, or a cop hater. I was right there with them for the first two weeks after it happened.

As for Americans who are more skeptical, judging by reader comments on MSM sites that have them and here on FR, about two thirds of the folks who've done a little digging, understand this for the charade it is.

One of the comments at Breitbart that says it all:

PhillipNagle • 36 minutes ago While Breitbart continues to carry this story at e relatively low level, the rest of the media has totally abandoned it. This was much worse than anything that has happened in Ferguson, Baltimore, New York or North Carolina, yet those stories linger while Waco is all but forgotten.

Anybody who thinks this story is about bikers, is way behind. This story is about bikers the way the story about the baker turning away two homosexuals who wanted to order a wedding cake, is about flour, eggs, sugar, and pretty decorations.

31 posted on 06/09/2015 9:21:56 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Travis McGee

One of the Waco tv stations is squarely in the police’s corner. Can’t remember which one it was and couldn’t save it at the time due to internet connection problems. But about 10-14 days ago they had a “like” thing going on on their news site and asked that people do the same on their Facebook.


32 posted on 06/09/2015 9:27:38 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: sport
However, since by popular demand of the a balance of fictitious ginned, illegal, multiple, dead, harvested, and fraudulent voters in 2008 and 2012 ...

There. Fixed it for you. REMEMBER -- Democrats cheat because if they didn't, they'd lose. They'd lose because they are the minority. We are seeing what happens when a tyrannical minority attempts to seize power over a majority.

33 posted on 06/09/2015 9:30:58 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: bgill

WPIG ?


34 posted on 06/09/2015 9:45:18 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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To: mabarker1

Yikes, visions of Less Nessman reporting on the Great Pig Drop in Waco!


35 posted on 06/09/2015 9:59:35 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: bgill

ROFLMAO!

I’d forgotten about that;)


36 posted on 06/09/2015 10:12:21 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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To: House Atreides

constitutional protections are set aside by fascist agendanistas trying to promote their narrative?

To the best of my knowledge ATF and the FBI were not involved. Had they been I’d be willing to acknowledge your point.


37 posted on 06/09/2015 5:44:07 PM PDT by logic101.net (If libs believe in Darwin and natural selection why do they get hacked off when it happens?)
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