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Officer who pepper-sprayed man suspended without pay [VIDEO]
WNYT ^ | June 4, 2015 | Staff

Posted on 06/04/2015 12:50:20 PM PDT by Fitzy_888

The Saratoga Springs Police Officer who pepper sprayed a man that gave him the middle finger has been suspended without pay. The chief of police now says he's seeking to fire the officer.

Officer Nathan Baker stopped Adam Rupeka back on May 16. At the time, Rupeka had just passed the officer and flashed the obscene gesture. He also had multiple cameras rolling.

When the officer asked for license and registration, Rupeka demanded to know what law had been broken.

After a back-and-forth of about 30 seconds, he was pepper-sprayed. Rupeka claims while it may not have been nice to flash the obscene gesture, it was within his constitutional right. Rupeka was charged with resisting arrest and driving with an obstructed view.

After talking to Rupeka’s attorney and reviewing the video, Saratoga County District Attorney Karen Heggen says her office has decided to dismiss the case.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: pepperspray; police; saratoga
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1 posted on 06/04/2015 12:50:20 PM PDT by Fitzy_888
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To: Fitzy_888

1. Give the cop a finger. Just cause for the officer to pull you over and investigate further.

2. Asking for license / registration. Legitimate request given the reasonable cause of #1. Must comply. Cop has zero obligation to engage in conversation.

3. Refusal to give license/reg. Made clear. Cop now has legitimate reason to both remove from vehicle and arrest. Cop asks occupant to step out of car. First step of arrest.

4. Refusal to step out of car. Cop now has legitimate cause to physically move occupant forcibly to complete arrest.

5. Copy takes first (and mild) step of forcible removal with pepper spray.


2 posted on 06/04/2015 1:02:35 PM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: Fitzy_888

That cop should clock off city time when he wants to indulge his personal business against citizens.


3 posted on 06/04/2015 1:03:26 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: mbarker12474

DA’s are rapidly becoming repugnant.


4 posted on 06/04/2015 1:04:24 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: mbarker12474

Pepper spray is hard to deny. Had the jerk suffered an untimely faceplant (triggered by some off-camera event like having his knees knocked out from under him from behind) would have been difficult to tie to the cop.


5 posted on 06/04/2015 1:07:21 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Fitzy_888

Suspended? Possibly fired? For pepper spraying some moron?

Shoulda just shot him dead. That way the moron would not have been able to file a complaint. Cop would be better off.

(Now. Where did I put that pesky sarc tag?)


6 posted on 06/04/2015 1:08:29 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: mbarker12474

1. Wrong
2. Wrong
3. Wrong
4. Wrong
5. Wrong

5 wrongs don’t make a right. Try again later, thank you for playing.


7 posted on 06/04/2015 1:15:03 PM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: mbarker12474
1. Give the cop a finger. Just cause for the officer to pull you over and investigate further.

It's actually not just cause.

http://www.ca2.uscourts.gov/decisions/isysquery/8ea5193d-9b87-4e23-9840-a803659cf798/1/doc/11-2846_opn.pdf#xml=http://www.ca2.uscourts.gov/decisions/isysquery/8ea5193d-9b87-4e23-9840-a803659cf798/1/hilite/
8 posted on 06/04/2015 1:15:31 PM PDT by nonamer
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To: mbarker12474

“reasonable cause”
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Now you are just making shit up.


9 posted on 06/04/2015 1:20:31 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: nonamer

Its not just cause but it is deliberate provocation. The guy deliberately provoked the cop and got just what he wanted: A lawsuit and his 15 minutes of fame.


10 posted on 06/04/2015 1:20:31 PM PDT by Chuckster ("Them Rag Heads just ain't rational" Curly Bartley 1973)
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To: mbarker12474

Ah, no on #1.
As per the Supreme Court.
Police know this.
That’s the reason for the unpaid vacation.


11 posted on 06/04/2015 1:21:54 PM PDT by glasseye
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To: Fitzy_888

Cop baiting with a car full of cameras.

Smells like an anti-cop agenda to me.


12 posted on 06/04/2015 1:22:39 PM PDT by JJ_Folderol (Diagonally parked in a parallel universe...)
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To: JJ_Folderol

And that dipshit in blue knew it before he pulls his pepper spray. The guy flipped off a cop-*gasp*-and?


13 posted on 06/04/2015 1:26:07 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Fitzy_888
Back in the mid 1970s a bunch of us guys were riding around one summer day when a State Trooper passed us going in the other direction. Some a$$hat in the back seat gave the Trooper the finger. The cop turned around and pulled us over. He told the guy in the back seat to get out and the Trooper yelled at him like a Marine DI but didn't touch him. That was enough to straighten him out.
14 posted on 06/04/2015 1:29:35 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (No tagline today.)
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To: All

“See this badge, mofo? Now, bow down to me, you dog!”


15 posted on 06/04/2015 1:33:22 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (I'm very sad for my country. Personally, I've never been happier.)
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To: mbarker12474

Here’s a question for YOU, buddy:

If someone gives YOU the finger - do you have the right to pepper-spray him?


16 posted on 06/04/2015 1:34:49 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: mbarker12474

Your premise is wrong. Therefore your conclusions are wrong as well.


17 posted on 06/04/2015 1:36:34 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Fitzy_888
The driver asked a legitimate question.....what crime am I being detained for. He got not answer. If there is no probable cause for detention the driver should be free to go. Then the police made up 2 or 3 false claims....resisting arrest, refusing to comply with a demand by an officer....perhaps another.

The cop did not have his thinking cap on. He was in the frame of mind to push someone around. So he did just that. He assaulted the man with a chemical, not having had any probable cause. He was on a power trip. Hope the citizen does take it to court. Perhaps if the citizens of the county or city have to throw away their hard earned tax money for this kind of frivolous behavior by the cop they will put a stop to it. I think this is sort of a spill over of what blacks have been experiencing...being pulled over because black. That is not, or should not be, probable cause for detention.

18 posted on 06/04/2015 1:39:36 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Chuckster

Deliberate provocation? So what? The cop needs to lose the chip on his shoulder and turn the other cheek.


19 posted on 06/04/2015 1:42:55 PM PDT by nonamer
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To: Fido969
Here’s a question for YOU, buddy:

If someone gives YOU the finger - do you have the right to pepper-spray him?

Why do you ask me this question?

In regard to a separate matter, if I am a police officer and I am making an arrest and the perp is in a vehicle and I have asked the perp to step out of the vehicle and the perp has refused to step out of the vehicle THEN I do have the right to use physical force to complete the arrest. Pepper spray is a relative MILD means to begin to effect the removal and then the arrest.

The Supreme Court case, btw, is enlightening.

20 posted on 06/04/2015 1:43:03 PM PDT by mbarker12474
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