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San Antonio man caught up in Waco melee has lost his job at USAA
mysanantonio.com ^ | May 28, 2015 | Guillermo Contreras

Posted on 05/28/2015 4:34:42 AM PDT by don-o

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To: don-o

Most of the names of the people arrested on this link have the entry unknown for club affiliation. I presume the PD knows the club affiliations of a lot more of them than are given on this list. If time permits I may look for other lists of the names of the arrested, hopefully they won’t all be copied from each other . . .


21 posted on 05/28/2015 5:54:48 AM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: don-o
Because after you mow down dope dealing criminal scumbags, that mowing down genie is out of the bottle.

Next comes Hell's Angels, MS-13, the Mexican Zetas, etc. There's a lot of mowing to do.

From then on, whoever has the power gets to pick the next target for mowing down.

That's like saying we shouldn't punish crime, or even try to do something about it, because tomorrow they are gonna come after accountants and fishmongers.

22 posted on 05/28/2015 5:56:03 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: don-o

Various online news sources from national and local sites. If you missed this, then you have not looked into this story AT ALL.


23 posted on 05/28/2015 5:56:19 AM PDT by CPONav
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To: CPONav

“The cops should have mowed them all down.” “I’m a biker. I ride and sometimes I ride with a group.”

Y’all look the same to me. Good for you I’m not a cop.


24 posted on 05/28/2015 5:56:34 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Repeal The 17th

It would be a place that does not tolerate organized street gangs.


25 posted on 05/28/2015 5:57:54 AM PDT by CPONav
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To: don-o

I’m not sure about this guys innocence, he may have had all good intentions while trying to learn more about motorcycle laws but, when you lie down with snakes, chances are you will get bitten.


26 posted on 05/28/2015 5:58:23 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
That's like saying we shouldn't punish crime, or even try to do something about it, because tomorrow they are gonna come after accountants and fishmongers.

Not at all saying that. In my part of the country, LE will often do roundups and make arrests. Only, they have done investigations, gathered evidence and intel and, SHAZAM! gotten a warrant. Criminals get arrested, get a trial and get punished. In that order.

Due process and equal protection under the law - What a concept.

27 posted on 05/28/2015 6:03:50 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o
Criminals get arrested, get a trial and get punished. In that order.

Like the two dudes who were mowed down in Garland, eh? Do you feel that was a miscarriage of justice?

28 posted on 05/28/2015 6:07:24 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

You cannot be serious in asking that. Please tell me you are not equating the two situations.


29 posted on 05/28/2015 6:08:49 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o
You cannot be serious in asking that.

Is it a difficult question to answer?

30 posted on 05/28/2015 6:10:15 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: BobL

For generations, many Mexicans in San Antonio have been infected with La Raza’s resentment toward Anglos, whom they see as unjust conquerors who stole their land.

Interestingly, these Mexicans living in the safety of Texas are never grateful for that. And they do not express anamosity toward Spain for stealing the entire country of Mexico from the indigenous tribes that populated the land before Cortez began the Spanish conquest.


31 posted on 05/28/2015 6:17:56 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

The perps in Garland fired at LE. The Garland PD shared that in the immediate aftermath. This we know.

Where is the timeline from Waco? How many, if any, shots were fired at the police? Did the police shoot before they were fired at? What were they shooting at?

Have these few questions been answered?


32 posted on 05/28/2015 6:19:04 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: CPONav

It’s too early to blame anybody. Seems like Waco LEO’s are in a pickle as to how to explain the situation and their involvement to the people of Texas.

After the previous WACO incident, where they simply had to detain one man (David Koresh, described in the media as a child molester) to avoid a direct confrontation with a religious group (described in the media as a cult), they chose to invade a compound and arrest Koresh there rather than wait until he was alone. That decision caused a lot of innocent lives to be lost and we still don’t know why.

I doubt if we will know the full story about this incident for some time. In the meantime, it’s a mell of a hess for all involved. But the glaring lack of facts and limited media coverage is questionable.

But know that Texans, don’t trust government bureaucracy and will be watching to see how this plays out and how it affects our individual rights should we be involved in a similar situation. Our perception of justice may be different than other states because we still believe our Constitution and Bill of Rights were written to protect us FROM government, not the other way round.

So I must presume the bikers are innocent until proven guilty as charged by factual evidence presented in a court of law and decided upon by a jury of their peers. Hopefully they will be brought to trial and convicted or acquitted of any charges as soon as possible.


33 posted on 05/28/2015 6:19:49 AM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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To: Repeal The 17th; CPONav

Judge Dredd?


34 posted on 05/28/2015 6:31:39 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: House Atreides
I’ve had USAA as my insurance company all my adult life so won’t cancel with them solely for this but I feel hurt that they would do this to their employee and his family.

No offense intended, but what you wrote is hypocritical.

THIS may be offensive:

What you wrote is symptomatic of what's wrong with a large percentage of Conservatives: Lack of conviction.

If the real reason you're not firing them is you can't afford it (USAA has pretty much the best rates), you should have been honest about that.

IMHO/.02

35 posted on 05/28/2015 6:38:19 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: logi_cal869

Well, your offensiveness WAS intended...and you know it. So please go ahead and live YOUR perfect life but, as part of your perfection, try to be less judgmental on others who you know absolutely nothing about.

Have a nice non-hypocritical day filled with conviction.


36 posted on 05/28/2015 6:45:37 AM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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While I am interested in the timeline of what went down at Waco and what LE did or did not do, my primary interest is in the mass roundup and incarceration of 170 people under a $1,000,000 bond. The AP reported that 115 of these had no criminal convictions.

Hearings for bail reduction as well as habeas are very slow in coming.

Why and cui bono (who benefits?)


37 posted on 05/28/2015 6:47:59 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

My question was: do you feel that the events of Garland was a miscarriage of justice? A simple yes or no would do. I say no. How about you?


38 posted on 05/28/2015 6:48:48 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: Jewbacca

Recall the old joke? L.A. has three street gangs, the Bloods, the Crips, and the L.A.P.D.


39 posted on 05/28/2015 6:50:27 AM PDT by sport
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Of course it was not a miscarriage. Now explain to me why you are trying to hammer a square peg into a round hole.


40 posted on 05/28/2015 6:50:37 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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