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Rand Paul blames 'hawks in our party' for Islamic State's rise
Politico ^ | 05/27/2015 | Nick Gass

Posted on 05/27/2015 7:45:51 AM PDT by GIdget2004

Rand Paul says the Islamic State exists and increased in strength because of the hawkish wing of the Republican Party that provided weapons to the region “indiscriminately.”

The Kentucky senator and Republican presidential candidate blasted members of his own party like South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham for arguing that the terrorist group exists because of people like him.

“I would say it’s exactly the opposite. ISIS exists and grew stronger because of the hawks in our party who gave arms indiscriminately, and most of those arms were snatched up by ISIS. These hawks also wanted to bomb Assad, which would have made ISIS’ job even easier. They’ve created these people,” Paul said in an interview with MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough that aired Wednesday on “Morning Joe.” Story Continued Below

Paul said the group is “all over Libya” because the “same hawks in my party loved — they loved Hillary Clinton’s war” in the country.

“They just wanted more of it, but Libya’s a failed state and it’s a disaster. Iraq really is a failed state or a vassal state now, of Iran,” he said. “So everything that they’ve talked about in foreign policy, they’ve been wrong about for 20 years, and yet they have somehow the gall to keep saying and pointing fingers otherwise.”

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To: GIdget2004

Sure... same as the liberal mentality...

if only we wouldn’t oppose criminals, Muslims, or others that seek to dominate and harm us,

they wouldn’t seek to dominate and harm us.


21 posted on 05/27/2015 8:07:24 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: GIdget2004
Rand Paul is a stark raving lunatic.
22 posted on 05/27/2015 8:08:01 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: GIdget2004

As if I didn’t already dislike him.


23 posted on 05/27/2015 8:08:07 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Of those born of women there is not risen one greater than John The Baptist.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Unreliable or confused about defense/foreign relations. We tried very hard to warm to young Paul but just couldn’t, sorry but we just can’t trust him the way he talks about these things. He is bright and likes me, IMHO Not our choice because we really need someone clear and reliable to try to repair all the damage Obama’s regime has inflicted on us and our foreign relations these past six years. Maybe another time


24 posted on 05/27/2015 8:08:53 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body.")
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To: TexasCajun

Right about McCain.


25 posted on 05/27/2015 8:10:12 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body.")
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To: MeshugeMikey

He’s right about McCain McCain might have screwed things up at least half as bad as Obama has.


26 posted on 05/27/2015 8:11:10 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body.")
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To: dowcaet

There seem to be two parts to his statement.

The first is that guy’s like McCain and Graham who blindly followed (if not tried to actively push) Obama’s policy to arm any group trying to overthrow Assad are responsible for that portion of those groups that turned into ISIS.

He’s dead-on accurate with that. ISIS grew directly out of the “overthrow Assad at all costs) policy. Which was post-Bush and owned by Obama, McCain, Graham, etc.

The second part, tying it out historically, is the flawed portion. If he’d just stuck with the first part we’d all be singing his praises (even if not voting for him)


27 posted on 05/27/2015 8:21:01 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: faithhopecharity
*clear and reliable:

Ronald Reagan.:

See also Ted Cruz.

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Rand doesnt seem to be very "clear and reliable" or stable.quite frankly
28 posted on 05/27/2015 8:31:43 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: GIdget2004
Sounds like desperation. Since he doesn't have a chance in hell of getting the nomination, he is reaching out to his dad's kook supporters.

Islamic extremism/terrorism started at the moment GW Bush was inaugurated in Jan 2001...right Paulhroids?

29 posted on 05/27/2015 8:36:03 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: GIdget2004

I lean Libertarian, but I do tire of listening to Libertarians blame the US, reflexively, for everything under the sun. It’s what turned me off to Ron Paul and if Rand intends to win he needs to be careful about that kind of statement.


30 posted on 05/27/2015 8:39:03 AM PDT by navyguy (The National Reset Button is pushed with the trigger finger.)
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To: GIdget2004
He points he criticizes and is even right to an extent but offers no solutions.

Empty suit leadership...we already have that.

31 posted on 05/27/2015 8:47:43 AM PDT by right way right (Disclaimer: Not a prophet but I have a pretty good record.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Cruz looks very good on a wide range of issues.


32 posted on 05/27/2015 9:37:18 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body.")
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To: faithhopecharity

A very wider range indeed. He had a moral compass and pays close attention to it


33 posted on 05/27/2015 9:53:03 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: tet68
Hereditary insanity?

Hereditary arrogance for sure. I am sure Paul's intention was to go after McCains of the party who have been wrong on US intervention as of late. FREEPERS agree with Paul on this. However, blaming all the world's ills on US intervention is a tire argument Liberals, Libertarians and the Pauls too often make.

RON Paul came across as arrogant when expressing his view of the founding fathers non interventionist principle- he was correct and all others are war mongers. Then used the chicken hawk term for people who favored military intervention but did not serve (like he did of course). Unfortunately since Rand has not served he can't pull the service card to account for his arrogance.

34 posted on 05/27/2015 11:09:28 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: ex-snook

That’s Obama’s strategy.


35 posted on 05/27/2015 1:12:21 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: DaxtonBrown

“RINO hawk” is an oxymoron.


36 posted on 05/27/2015 1:12:57 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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