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Finding Redemption in the Josh Duggar Story
Townhall.com ^ | May 25, 2015 | Michael Brown

Posted on 05/25/2015 10:05:12 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: ilovesarah2012
I have always heard “once a child molester, always a child molester”.

Pedophiles have one of the highest recidivist rates among criminals....and, there is no known cure pedophilia. You are right not to trust them....ever.
101 posted on 05/25/2015 12:59:44 PM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: Just mythoughts

I don’t think they are allowed on FR, are they?

I am not bound by piety or christian behavior. As such, i am free to express my opinion about child molesters as I see fit.

Knew a family like this. Not quite as strict. One of the girls goes to a party and gets date raped. Tells her mom and gets blamed. Is forbidden to report it because it might bring shame to the family.

People like this disgust me. They are like the pharisees of old. Nice and clean on the outside, but inside full of dead men’s bones.

How would you like to be a girl in that house? Think about it. You are not allowed to be anything other than a homemaker. You are not allowed to go to college and figure out what YOU want to do with YOUR life. And, oh, BTW, your brother? Yeah the one who sneaks into your room at night? Yeah, do the chores for him.

Sick.


102 posted on 05/25/2015 1:03:36 PM PDT by jimbo807
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To: Just mythoughts
"What goes around comes around, and some posters have a full dish coming their way."

Josh Duggar is the abuser; don't you think his is probably the full dish?

I ask this in all sincerity, because I honestly don't understand it....we would discuss this kind of revelation if it pertained to anyone else, but the Duggars are considered somehow sacred and off-limits.

Why do they get a pass? I have to run out for a bit; I'll check the thread when I get back.

103 posted on 05/25/2015 1:03:46 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: jimbo807
Well, that's the conversation everyone should be having...

Imagine... it must be a nightmare. Most parents try to protect their children. And then your own child... OMG. What should parents do in this situation?

I can only imagine these parents trying to figure out the best route:

Have the child arrested? Would that involve prison time? A Class A Misdemeanor means up to a year in prison. Not sure if that applies to juveniles, too... If so, a 14yo would be sent to juvenile hall, right?

If so, what happens when this kid gets out of juvenile hall? Couldn't prison make matters worse? Then what happens when he returns home?

Or, if he's simply removed from the home, where will he be placed? With another family, only to do the same thing? Or, in a facility, where he might learn from other inmates how to continue the behavior?

Given all these questions, I can understand why this father decided to seek advice at his church, then send the son away to a Christian treatment program involving hard labor for three months, then bring him to a state trooper to scare him some more, and then have him confess and apologize to the family and everyone else, and continue to tell people.

I hope the girls received counseling, too, and I hope they weren't taught to blame themselves. We don't really know what was done for them, besides the confession and apologies they received.

104 posted on 05/25/2015 1:05:26 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

See post #104 above.


105 posted on 05/25/2015 1:07:27 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: NorthstarMom

I agree about the parents knowing best. I sincerely believe that JimBob and Michelle have tried their best at all times to follow God’s will. But when I watched them it was to make myself a better parent. Now I know I don’t have that much that I want to learn from them anymore.


106 posted on 05/25/2015 1:09:22 PM PDT by impimp
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To: Tired of Taxes

Given the dynamic, the forgiveness was foregone as God’s will.

If he’d been a couple of years older, he’d have gone to prison. Good he didn’t cause the convicts have a code of honor when it comes to molesting children.


107 posted on 05/25/2015 1:10:19 PM PDT by jimbo807
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To: Morgana

Just read it. That goes beyond anything I could have imagined. Horrible.


108 posted on 05/25/2015 1:14:36 PM PDT by NorthstarMom (God says debt is a curse and children are a blessing, yet we apply for loans and prevent pregnancy.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

I was a Prosecutor in VA for about 25 years.

We used to see this all the time. It was very much like the Celeb who gets caught cheating and then claims “sex addiction”. No, you aren’t a sex addict ... you were just horny and got caught.

I can’t think of an instance of sex abuse like unto this case where suddenly Jesus was used as a shield and/or an excuse. Suddenly, Jesus and God was everywhere. Needless to say, we never bought it even if there was a history of “religion”. We always found that if there was a history of “religion” that that too was just used as cover before they got caught. It is amazing to me how many people, how many Christians, let down their guard when someone says “I’m a Christian”. Perhaps it’s the Prosecutor in me, but I need a whole lot more than that.


109 posted on 05/25/2015 1:15:21 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Tired of Taxes

The info was sent to the Oprah show who canceled the show and sent the info to the local police.


110 posted on 05/25/2015 1:20:00 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (If Hitler, Nazi, OR...McCarthy are mentioned in an argument, then the argument is over!)
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To: rottndog

That may hold true for adults but from what I have read recidivism rates for juveniles who commit sexual offenses are generally quite a bit lower.


111 posted on 05/25/2015 1:22:55 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: mdmathis6

“The info was sent to the Oprah show who canceled the show and sent the info to the local police.”

And THAT is how it should be/have been handled. Too bad it took an infidel like Oprah to do the right thing.


112 posted on 05/25/2015 1:23:08 PM PDT by jimbo807
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To: Kaslin

Please gag me.

Child molestation is the worst kind of evil. Very few people are sexually attracted to children. Very few people raised with morality seek power so badly they will hurt innocents to get it.

MURDERERS turn against child molestors.

The Christian religion is NOT a magic cloak. There are bad people within all religions and without them.

If it isn’t ok for Roman Polanski to rape that girl, then it is not ok for Josh Duggar to rape many girls. But for the statute of limitation they would both be in jail. Where they should be. People wanting to have sex with children never lose the urge. How can we trust them?


113 posted on 05/25/2015 1:24:52 PM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way... I love it when we're Cruzin together")
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To: jimbo807

Pure, unadulterated evil. Those defending them mystify me.


Me as well.

If Free Republic becomes a site that officially or by majority supports these sick people, I will be out of here. After 15 years I think.


114 posted on 05/25/2015 1:28:23 PM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way... I love it when we're Cruzin together")
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To: Tired of Taxes

A note detailing the incidents had been placed in a book lent to a church congregant...one story has it that they were notes written by Jim Bob and forgotten, the other was that a note from one of the victims secretly placed into that book. The congregant, learning that the family was going to be on the Oprah show sent the note(or copy?) to the Oprah show who canceled the interview and sent the contents to the cops. The congregant was “supposedly worried that the local cops wouldn’t do anything”.

That was the official account as of Saturday night. The question Me and some Freepers had was why was the info sent to Oprah instead of the local CPS. CPS can be real NAZI’s over this sort of stuff.


115 posted on 05/25/2015 1:28:32 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (If Hitler, Nazi, OR...McCarthy are mentioned in an argument, then the argument is over!)
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To: Kaslin

He was raised as a Christian, wasn’t he? I don’t understand this defence.


116 posted on 05/25/2015 1:31:17 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: al baby

Playing doctor is innocent only if both people are way below puberty. If one is above and the other is below, that’s molestation.


117 posted on 05/25/2015 1:32:21 PM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way... I love it when we're Cruzin together")
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To: jimbo807

Anyone who doesn’t remove the molester from their home as soon as they know, is putting their pride or ego above their daughters’ safety.


118 posted on 05/25/2015 1:34:29 PM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way... I love it when we're Cruzin together")
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To: Yaelle

“If it isn’t ok for Roman Polanski to rape that girl, then it is not ok for Josh Duggar to rape many girls. But for the statute of limitation they would both be in jail. Where they should be. People wanting to have sex with children never lose the urge. How can we trust them?”

What are the recidivism rates between 14 year olds fondling sisters( who get caught, disciplined, counseled and scared out of their gourds) vs. 30 something year olds raping unrelated minors who then flee the country?

There are nonsequitors in your questioning. As for questions of trust...yeah I agree with you!


119 posted on 05/25/2015 1:36:07 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (If Hitler, Nazi, OR...McCarthy are mentioned in an argument, then the argument is over!)
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To: jimbo807

There are plenty of young men brought up in oppressive religious households. They don’t all turn to underaged children for their sexual pleasure. He made a choice.

All kids at puberty should be informed that once they come of age, they need to avoid any suggestion of sexuality with little children or THEIR LIVES WILL BE OVER FOREVER. Yes, even if you are 14 or 16 you can receive sex offender status for life. As it should be.


120 posted on 05/25/2015 1:37:59 PM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way... I love it when we're Cruzin together")
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