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To: Ouderkirk

Since one of my good friends is a white American who converted to Sufi Islam back in the 70s, I object to that POV.

He is one of the most decent and honorable people I’ve ever known.

He converted, BTW, from Episcopalianism because Christianity was so violent. He agrees it was kind of a pot/fire choice, in hindsight.

You think every Muslim should be killed? Then you should be willing to participate personally. Let’s line up 10 little Muslim girls, tied up for your convenience, and you cut their throats.

I despise hyperbole, and I despise loud talkers unwilling to back up their bloviating even more.


33 posted on 05/25/2015 9:42:25 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
Please understand that I'm serious about the following. I'm not trying to make any sly point. I really want to know. There's lots of confusion and misinformation out there.

Regarding your Sufi Islam friend, how do you think he would honestly answer these two questions:

1. What should happen to anyone who draws a picture of Mohamed?
2. What should happen to anyone who leaves the islamic faith?

And do you think his answers would reflect "mainstream" Sufi Islamic views?

36 posted on 05/25/2015 9:54:08 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Sherman Logan
But the leaders of your good friends “religion” still support death for anyone leaving the cult. The cult demands the entire world SUBMIT.

Your friend is deluded. So are you.

islam is intolerant of the mere existence of any other belief system. THAT is basic to islam. Of course, its adherents usually stay quiet until they have sufficient numbers to get away with causing trouble.

The Jesus fellow told his disciples to preach the Good News and if the people won't listen to move on and shake the dust from your sandals.

The Mohahmed fellow told his followers to kill all who would not convert except for those who accepted slavery.

I know which philosphy is truly decent and honorable. Besides,even surrendering doesn't save your life from islamic jihadists.

37 posted on 05/25/2015 9:57:36 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Sherman Logan

>> You think every Muslim should be killed? Then you should be willing to participate personally. Let’s line up 10 little Muslim girls, tied up for your convenience, and you cut their throats.

I despise hyperbole, and I despise loud talkers unwilling to back up their bloviating even more. <<

Do you think those 10 little muslim girls would stay muslim if given freedom and a choice?

Nice hyperbole, by the way.


41 posted on 05/25/2015 10:21:46 AM PDT by JJ_Folderol (Diagonally parked in a parallel universe...)
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To: Sherman Logan

The choice for reform is on the muslims, not on the Christains or Jews.

Yet the very words of the Pederast Prophet preclude reformation as they are allegedly the revelation of Allah and are therefor not open to interpretation or reformation. Islam is either taken in whole or not at all. Anything else is blasphemy.

Inevitably, the West will have to deal with the muslim problem. Islam will have to reform itself, or be annihilated in some sort of “final solution”. Absent that, the west will have to capitulate to Islam.

Those are the only two choices. Islam has been at war with the world for 1400 years, I don’t see that changing without some sort of duress.

We all know individual muslims who have splendid qualities, and are fine people, but where is the call for reformation is Islam...or Islam to stop it’s violent conquest? Does you friend dare to say these things, or does he keep his mouth shut out of fear of the more devout elements?

I am looking at the horizon, not at my feet. It is evident to anyone who cares to look that there is a final confrontation coming. It may be unpalatable, but it will have to be dealt with in one way or another.


52 posted on 05/25/2015 2:23:42 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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