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Saudi oil minister: 'Fossil fuels doomed, we're switching to solar'
Herald Sun ^ | May 22, 2015 | JOHN CONROY

Posted on 05/24/2015 9:56:56 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer

Saudi Arabia's oil minister has said the country will switch its energy focus to solar power as the nation envisages an end to fossil fuels, possibly around 2040-2050, Reuters reports.

"In Saudi Arabia, we recognise that eventually, one of these days, we are not going to need fossil fuels, I don't know when, in 2040, 2050... so we have embarked on a program to develop solar energy," Ali Al-Naimi told a business and climate conference in Paris, the news service reports.

"Hopefully, one of these days, instead of exporting fossil fuels, we will be exporting gigawatts, electric ones. Does that sound good?"

Reuters reports that the minster added that he still expected the world's energy mix to be dominated by fossil fuels in the near future.

The Boston Globe adds that the minister said oil prices as low as $US30-$40 a barrel would not make solar power uneconomic.


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KEYWORDS: fossilfuel; oil; saudiarabia; solarenergy
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This is the reason behind the Saudis pushing down the oil price. They wish to extend the life of their oil industry as much as possible, but they also see an end to dominance, with more oil coming online, plus finally some alternatives to oil. They are trying to wean themselves from oil while using oil money to do it. We always see ourselves as dependent on oil, but their economy is about 95% oil related, at least in foreign trade. They are the ones who really have to work to diversify.
1 posted on 05/24/2015 9:56:56 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

I would expect the Saudis to be as truthful on this topic as they are on most others.


2 posted on 05/24/2015 9:59:20 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Yes, this is a head fake.


3 posted on 05/24/2015 10:06:36 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Isn't it funny that Socialists never want to share their own money?)
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To: Vince Ferrer

One big barrier for them, is their insistence on only doing business with Muslims.


4 posted on 05/24/2015 10:10:40 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
The city springing up in the DESERT: New pictures of Saudi Arabia’s £67billion project that will house two million people by 2035

The late King Abdullah, who died in January this year, had pinned his hopes for his country's future on the innovative builds, with oil supplies naturally dwindling. The project is part of Saudi Arabia's efforts to 'diversify away from oil' and create jobs.

5 posted on 05/24/2015 10:11:55 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Cowboy Bob

"By 2030, our economy will run entirely on dance music."

6 posted on 05/24/2015 10:16:17 PM PDT by FredZarguna (We are vain and we are blind/I hate people when they're not polite.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

“I would expect the Saudis to be as truthful on this topic as they are on most others.”

Agreed, though there’s probably a bit of truth in it also. They’ll do some solar, they are in the right place for it. As far as exporting electricity, uh, not anytime soon.

The more interesting question is, “What are they worried about?” Because they are very worried about something.


7 posted on 05/24/2015 10:20:53 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Life is good.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Notice the difference between this and Iran. Saudis say that solar is the way to go. Iran says nuclear is the way to go.

Is the intent here to make a very clear differentiator?


8 posted on 05/24/2015 10:25:58 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: SaxxonWoods
The more interesting question is, “What are they worried about?” Because they are very worried about something.

"I summon my blue-eyed slaves anytime it pleases me. I command the Americans to send me their bravest soldiers to die for me. Anytime I clap my hands a stupid genie called the American ambassador appears to do my bidding. When the Americans die in my service their bodies are frozen in metal boxes by the US Embassy and American airplanes carry them away, as if they never existed. Truly, America is my favorite slave." King Fahd Bin Abdul-Aziz, Jeddeh 1993

We are now no longer in Saudi Arabia. We also no longer come when called, and everyone in the middle east knows it. Everything happening in the middle east right now is due to us leaving Saudi Arabia and Iraq, with everyone else is now trying to fill the void. Saudi Arabia sees Iran developing nukes, and threatening to destroy Saudi Arabia. Iraq is disintegrating, and ISIS is very popular within Saudi Arabia. The royal family see this as a very critical moment for their continued existence..

9 posted on 05/24/2015 10:29:07 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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Of course, solar energy doesn’t replace oil, it replaces coal.

Oil is mostly used as a transportation fuel, it isn’t used to supply the grid.


10 posted on 05/24/2015 10:39:30 PM PDT by marron
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To: Vince Ferrer

Diversify onto what? They cannot export solar energy. The Saudis are as stupid as their religion. They own nothing but sand, their oil revenues were a discovery by Americans, i.e. “Aramco,” and their continued wealth is dependent on oil wealth buying other investments, witness Abu Thalid. This is a joke. Solar will never replace crude oil, ever. “And I have made the earth livable,” —God. Paul Ehrlich comes to mind, the fool that he is in loosing the bet to Julian Simon. The greatest resource is the mind of man, created by God.


11 posted on 05/24/2015 10:40:03 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Vince Ferrer

Go big time! Manufacture Hula Hoops.


12 posted on 05/24/2015 10:52:40 PM PDT by Mark (Obama Care is now DEMOCRAT CARE)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Looks like a good idea, considering their climate and all. In the meantime, they can poke more holes in their oil fields and further flood the world market with oil. Let’s see it go down to $30 or less for several years!


13 posted on 05/24/2015 11:29:23 PM PDT by familyop
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To: marron
Oil is mostly used as a transportation fuel, it isn’t used to supply the grid

As well as in pharmaceutical, agrochemicals and plastic raw materials

14 posted on 05/24/2015 11:37:36 PM PDT by spokeshave
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To: Vince Ferrer

Lolololol


15 posted on 05/24/2015 11:45:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Vince Ferrer

In the meantime there are drill rigs EVERYWHERE in the Ghawar Oil Field.


16 posted on 05/24/2015 11:47:24 PM PDT by Kozak (Walker / Cruz 2016 or Cruz/ Walker 2016 Either one is good...)
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To: Fungi
They own nothing but sand, their oil revenues were a discovery by Americans, i.e. “Aramco,”

That sounds like an argument that Americans a re stupid, not Saudis.

17 posted on 05/24/2015 11:48:10 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Vince Ferrer
Saudi Arabia's oil minister has said the country will switch its energy focus to solar power

Ha...been there done that....with big losses:

Abu Dhabi is shopping its way into the solar industry.

Michael Kanellos: May 29, 2008, 2:57 AM

Masdar PV, the solar subsidiary of the multibillion-dollar cleantech effort, will invest approximately $2 billion into thin film silicon solar plants. The first plant, in Erfurt, Germany, will be open by the third quarter of next year. A second facility in Abu Dhabi will be open by the second quarter of 2010. The two plants will have a production capacity of 210 megawatts.

And how are they going to get there? With help from Applied Materials. The semiconductor equipment maker is selling Masdar three SunFab thin film lines. Think of the SunFab line as a solar factory in a box. Applied produces turnkey production lines and then sells it to well-heeled customers. Applied customers will have around 278 megawatts of capacity in the ground by the end of this year and the figure is expected to climb to 4.2 gigawatts by 2012.

Fast forward to 2010....

Applied Materials, the semiconductor equipment giant, said on Wednesday that it will discontinue the SunFab line for thin-film solar panels and cut about 500 workers. It's the end of a saga. Applied jumped into the amorphous silicon solar business in 2006 through acquisitions and talked about ultimately creating factories that would produce gigawatts worth of solar panels a year. The center of the strategy was SunFab, a factory-in-a-box. The company landed early clients like Signet Solar, Suntech and Masdar PV.

"The thin film market has been negatively impacted by several factors, including delays in utility-scale solar adoption, solar panel manufacturers' challenges in obtaining affordable capital, changes and uncertainty in government renewable energy policies, and competitive pressure from crystalline silicon technologies," said CEO Mike Splinter in a prepared statement.

The restructuring will cut about $100 million in operating expenses

18 posted on 05/24/2015 11:52:23 PM PDT by spokeshave
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To: Vince Ferrer

I have been a solar skeptic since the 1980’s when I went to Engineering school and learned about the math behind energy. The biggest assumptions solar advocates were always wrong on was that solar efficiency would automatically rise and that solar prices would come down automatically in the same ways that other technology, like computers did.
In fact, the gains on both fronts have been painfully slow, but even I am beginning to admit some progress. Some panels now have up to 20% efficiency, a 25 year life, and the cost has come down because of the chinese getting into the business in a big way.
At this point a system for a modern 3/2 1500 sf southern house with plenty of AC, that could produce and sell back to the utility enough energy to have a net zero power bill, would cost less than $50k. For this you probably need a system with a 20 kw size so you can keep that AC compressor running all day AND sell back the excess to cover you at night.
Knock off an extra 30% for federal tax credits and you are on to something.


19 posted on 05/24/2015 11:57:46 PM PDT by BRK
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To: SaxxonWoods

Because they are very worried about something

Maybe some of their wells are starting to tap out sooner than they expected but they haven’t admitted it yet!


20 posted on 05/25/2015 3:40:15 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (If Hitler, Nazi, OR...McCarthy are mentioned in an argument, then the argument is over!)
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