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To: Mariner
I don't have a problem with making the Senate vote “up” or “down” on trade agreements. It still requires an appropriate number of votes to pass.

This does stop people from modifying with riders the terms.

After this is passed, Senators will simply need to vote down the agreement and reauthor it if they want a new vote. What is not to love about this? It doesn't stop review and if people don't like future bills, they can't negotiate to add something in the dark of night that is then voted on (for which no one else may have fully identified the new insertion).

This is a “win-win.”.

Folks, are you just having a problem with a reduction of wasted time? I can't understand how this is bad.

40 posted on 05/22/2015 1:13:55 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind
'After this is passed, Senators will simply need to vote down the agreement and reauthor it if they want a new vote.'

They didn't author this bill...It has been negotiated without the interest of me and other persons. Do I or you have a say in the forming of bills? My Congressman cannot change the bill, but merely vote for it, yes or no. That does not represent the commons, but the lobbyist and other trading partners.

41 posted on 05/22/2015 2:35:45 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: ConservativeMind

What they fail to mention in most of these articles is that fast track also changes the requirement for treaties from 2/3rds to a simple majority. This trade agreement will never happen without fast track. If TPA (fast track) is passed there will be no other debate and TPP will become law. It may even allow a few Senators to be on record voting against it knowing full well that it will have 51 votes anyway. I suspect that Cruz will be in this category since he already voted for fast track.


45 posted on 05/22/2015 3:59:06 PM PDT by Roland (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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