Posted on 05/20/2015 10:10:09 AM PDT by bgill
Bullets ricocheted around the parking lot of Twin Peaks, the Waco restaurant where a motorcycle gang shootout left nine dead, just minutes after Theron Rhoten pulled in on his vintage Harley chopper for a regional motorcycle club meeting, according to Rhoten’s wife. Katie Rhoten told The Associated Press that her husband ran for cover and was later arrested, along with antique motorcycle enthusiast friends and other “nonviolent, noncriminal people.” Authorities swept up around 170 bikers who had descended on the restaurant for what one club member described as a gathering to discuss laws protecting motorcycle riders.... McLennan County Sheriff Parnell McNamara and Waco police Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton declined to comment Tuesday on allegations that innocent bikers were arrested.
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I’ve been caught up in Ruth, before. Does that count?
When Texas secedes, let’s leave Austin behind.
What if I only HAVE one eye?
“Saying they are associating with a ‘criminal element’ because people show up from a different club who don’t have exactly a spotless record would be like saying you associated with terrorists because you were in the crowd when they bombed the Boston Marathon.”
No the bikers were sitting at table with the outlaws who were wearing their colors and patches proudly proclaiming them as such. That is a voluntary association.
Freedom means you have the right of association, but if you are a member of a defined criminal gang, you are defined as a criminal. You have the right to remain silent, all the other rights of anyone else.
If you are not a criminal, why would you hang around an outlaw gang proudly wearing their ephemera?
Just asking.
He told you and you were upon a new beginning upon it was not a fact ... Please .... you are better than that and my ((HUGS))
Really, he hates Jay Leno?
I bet a lot of them had those deadly wallet chains!
one eye is one moment .. and one eye says one point ... Kudos!
You are already destroying this thread with your trolling gibberish.
Something is wrong with you, drugs I imagine.
Boozefighters and Vagos ... together at the 81 bar ... H0OO-OK. I’m sure a few Mongels were there as well ... right ? How about some San Jose Gypsy Jokers ... were they there too ?
It works in reality just fine, if you actually know the history of the terms involved.
Post #165, by clamper1797 is a good, factually & historically accurate explanation of the origin of the terms. That fact that you’d never heard it before, or that it does not agree with your preconceived notions, does not change that.
That has not been the subject of most of your posts to me, and I have not avoided it.
Nope ... Your problem is my problem ... Care to talk about ‘offline’?
Apparently so. He wrote an op/ed for the Sun in which he called for motorists (cars and trucks) to intentionally run over every motorcycle they see on the highway.
Yeah, it was a hit. 20 cops set up to take on 170 bikers. That sounds smart.
;-)
“He wrote an op/ed for the Sun in which he called for motorists (cars and trucks) to intentionally run over every motorcycle they see on the highway.”
A psycho.
Read that post again, I never said that.
Why do you keep avoiding the subject of my posts to you, this claim that one doesn’t have to be criminal to belong to the 1%er outlaw gangs?
How do you think that works in reality?
“It has nothing to do with outlaw gangs using respectable clubs as “cover”. “
I guess on that one point, I differ. Associating with known violent people, is not “respectable” in my view.
My wife is Italian, on both sides. When I first met her, I joked with her family members, about the mafia. Nobody took the bait. To law abiding Italians, the mafia was bad, not anything they wanted to be associated with.
I would think the same would apply to respectable motorcycle club members and enthusiasts.
One thing that I can see, is a sort of vicarious aspect, of being close to trouble, while also keeping a distance.
Maybe some of the respectable people, will keep greater distances from the criminal gang types, instead of associating.
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