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Moms Demand: ‘Outlaw’ Biker Gangs Wouldn’t Have Guns If We Expanded Background Checks
ammoland.com ^ | 5/18/2015 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 05/20/2015 7:04:02 AM PDT by rktman

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“There is no single solution to ending gun violence, but we do know that background checks on all gun sales save lives and keep guns out of the wrong hands.”

That is incredible nonsense. Background checks on all pharmaceutical sales would cut drug abuse. The problem is that criminals will not follow the procedures for buying/selling drugs on the DEA list of schedule I/II/III/IV drugs, or for buying/selling firearms. All the expanded background checks will do is add cost and inconvenience for decent Americans, without deterring violent democrats and other criminals.

41 posted on 05/20/2015 7:46:48 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: rktman

Since selling guns on the blackmarket is one of the businesses bikers are into, along with drugs and prostitution, I do not think that any gun law would deter these criminals. It is like saying, if only Mafia buttonmen where subjected to background checks, less wiseguys would get whacked.


42 posted on 05/20/2015 7:49:42 AM PDT by gusty
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To: cripplecreek

even iceland has hells angels
http://www.icenews.is/2012/01/14/hells-angels-in-police-custody-over-attacks-on-woman/


43 posted on 05/20/2015 7:49:45 AM PDT by The Right wing Infidel
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To: Cry if I Wanna

These Mom goo goos make the chronic mistake (of do-gooders) of thinking that if they take a big bite out of liberty, crime will go down.
See: the 18th Amendment. It has the opposite effect.
Go after the gang bangers and bikers illegally in possession and carrying; leave the rights of law abiding citizens to buy and sell guns the hell alone.

The mouse in my pocket and I are about fed up with `subsidizing’ people who feel laws don’t apply to them, while watching our rights whittled away:
Americans in Connecticut and Oregon are telling their overlords to GTH over infringements to their 2nd amendment liberty.


44 posted on 05/20/2015 7:50:48 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: rktman

The stupid! It burns!


45 posted on 05/20/2015 7:51:51 AM PDT by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: Pollster1

And those restrictions on pharmaceutical drugs has lead to doctors being afraid to prescribe painkillers and has caused untold unnecessary suffering among cancer patients while junkies buy there smack without a problem


46 posted on 05/20/2015 7:53:02 AM PDT by The Right wing Infidel
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To: Cry if I Wanna

Even if private sales were made illegal criminals would simply buy stolen guns or ones smuggled in the country just like drug traffickers in Mexico do. Also it would raise the price of black market weapons which would drive an industry of home-brew weapons that are even less traceable than stolen weapons.

So yes, it is possible that a criminal obtained a weapon at a gun show by lying to a private seller but had that avenue not been open it would be simple to obtain a gun through other means. Thus there is no way that private sales increase crime. There is however plenty to suggest that banning private sales will keep guns away from honest citizens which increases crime.


47 posted on 05/20/2015 7:54:10 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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Brazil is a great example, they rank number one in the world by gun murders despite having nanny state gun control laws which have lead to law abiding citizens to be unarmed and afraid while criminals run amook


48 posted on 05/20/2015 7:56:29 AM PDT by The Right wing Infidel
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49 posted on 05/20/2015 7:59:10 AM PDT by The Right wing Infidel
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

“Criminal biker gangs are no different from islamic terrorists.”

I doubt that. Would old folks be in endangered by them?


50 posted on 05/20/2015 8:13:44 AM PDT by Beagle8U
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

It freezes us!!!


51 posted on 05/20/2015 8:17:16 AM PDT by Sister_T (So, ACA is the law of the land? Remember: DADT and DOMA were the laws of the land! Repeal ACA!)
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Is "Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America " another commie front organization paid for by George Soros?

(Well since Soros owed the IRS millions - is this another commie front organization paid for by American taxpayers?)

52 posted on 05/20/2015 8:22:34 AM PDT by GOPJ (Did ABC really 'research' the Clinton Cash book and find 'nothing' or was that also lie?)
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Would old folks be in endangered by them?

Yes, innocent bystanders have been killed/injured by biker gang bombs.

53 posted on 05/20/2015 8:26:44 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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“O, brother. ANOTHER George Soros funded group?”

Nice try, but nope. It is a different statist named Bloomberg....


54 posted on 05/20/2015 8:27:00 AM PDT by CSM
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“Mom’s Demand Action.”

They should change their name to The Sandy Hookers, because Michael Bloomturd is paying them. He’s their pimp.


55 posted on 05/20/2015 8:28:46 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The so-called Southern Poverty Law Center is a hate group.)
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To: Durbin

“So they’re saying gang members wouldn’t have guns if we expanded background checks? I think these moms have a splash too much vodka in their cranberry juice.”

I actually had a conversation with an unthinking “urban detriot resident.” (hear the dog whistle?) He actually made the claim that gang bangers wouldn’t gang bang if we would just ban guns. I couldn’t respond because I was laughing too hard at him....


56 posted on 05/20/2015 8:29:11 AM PDT by CSM
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Damn few of them.


57 posted on 05/20/2015 8:32:40 AM PDT by Beagle8U
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To: Pollster1

Everytime I get a cold, I think of your example. I can’t find an effective over the counter medication, yet meth use seems to be as high as ever....I blame the nannystaters with every sneeze!


58 posted on 05/20/2015 8:41:09 AM PDT by CSM
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Thats what we need another law...

If there was a law that provides for extended criminal penalties on acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization......

We could call it The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act,

59 posted on 05/20/2015 8:46:52 AM PDT by virgil283 (........death could not hold you down....you are the risen King ......Alleluia.)
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Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America is stressing that outlaw biker gangs would not have guns if legislators expanded background checks.

The background check form does ask questions about mental history. This statement alone should get this Moms group members banned from owning weapons

60 posted on 05/20/2015 8:48:27 AM PDT by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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