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Report says ATF should be disbanded
Personal Liberty ^ | May 19, 2015 | John Diedrich

Posted on 05/19/2015 4:08:59 PM PDT by robowombat

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To: headsonpikes

Ah, good, an illustration of the concept!

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And it’s really there. Judging from the sign, it looks like they also sell pot, now (because of the green crosses). Not so last time that I shopped there.


21 posted on 05/19/2015 5:16:07 PM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: Dubh_Ghlase

I do want it gone. 90% of it should be.

There needs to be some sort of replacement. If it’s a national sales tax or a flat tax or whatever, it needs to be put in place as the IRS is shut down.

So while I agree with you, the seven day period is a little too short. I do think a plan should be rolled out the first year to replace 25% of the income tax received.

Then expand it nationwide after the kinks are worked out.

Certainly within three years I’d like to see the agents gone.

There may be a need to verify if the sales tax is being collected nationally, or whatever else plan is devised.

This may require an agency, but the IRS as we know it should be DOA certainly by 2020.


22 posted on 05/19/2015 5:16:11 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: robowombat

Disbanded and a stake put through its heart.


23 posted on 05/19/2015 5:19:23 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: robowombat

And the EPA


24 posted on 05/19/2015 5:25:23 PM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: robowombat

if the purpose of eliminating ATF is because it is allegedly too weak or ineffective at gun control, I must respectfully dissent on basic constitutional grounds...
(gun control, no matter how well-intentioned, being an illegitmate governmental activity in the first place in the USA....
‘the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed,’ US Constitution)


25 posted on 05/19/2015 5:28:54 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (“When the righteous are in authority, people rejoice; but when a wicked man rules, people groan)
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To: robowombat
They should at least be substantially scaled back.
Only do what it says in their original charter.
No growing or expanding operations into other things.
No writing their own legislation.
ONLY deal with illegal trafficking.
No hassling legal uses, users or vendors.
With that limitation, they could be a branch of FBI.

For all other department also: No writing their own legislation or grabbing for more power.

26 posted on 05/19/2015 5:40:24 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: robowombat

“come on Man....” who will buy all those extra long tables that they tote around with special trailers to show off all those legal firearms that they just confiscated?

Who will educate all the first year “journalist” about the danger of unloaded firearm?

Who will help the media editors on their headlines?

The BATFEMOUSE have had this critical role for many years.


27 posted on 05/19/2015 5:41:22 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (It is not heaven, it is Iowa. Everyone gets a "Corn Check")
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To: loungitude

Perfect!


28 posted on 05/19/2015 5:43:31 PM PDT by twister881
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To: robowombat

The only problem is the phrase “replaced by”.


29 posted on 05/19/2015 5:43:32 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: hadaclueonce
Conservatives are not the majority. If we were the MSM would be blaming Conservatives
night and day, and the Libs would be jumping from buildings.

Blame for what you ask? See "Blame Bush" for reference. LOL

30 posted on 05/19/2015 5:46:04 PM PDT by MaxMax (Call the local GOP and ask how you can support CRUZ for POTUS, Make them talk!)
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To: SatinDoll

I share your sentiment, but I view the federal government as being totally out of control, and it will not give up ANY power. The politicians, judges and enforcers are all on the gravy train, none of ‘em will abide by a federal power shrinkage, and they will use all force necessary to keep the people under control.


31 posted on 05/19/2015 5:53:17 PM PDT by Cboldt
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As an FFL and a gun enthusiast, I can support a weak ATF. I don’t mind that they’re ineffective and disorganized. In fact, I would resist any effort to make them more efficient.


32 posted on 05/19/2015 6:11:46 PM PDT by stranger and pilgrim
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To: robowombat

BATFE was in Waco again this week.


33 posted on 05/19/2015 7:30:29 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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34 posted on 05/19/2015 7:35:00 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: PapaBear3625

They think we would respect the FBI or ‘Homeland Securty more”, and they might be right as its harder to deminoziase an agency that does something that is not so clearly a violation of the Federal Constitution.

But the truth is the FBI has no business existing either, and ‘homeland security’ is a collection agencies only some of which are actually useful and lawful like border patrol and coast guard.

The ATF should be abolished but few if any of its functions should be redistributed to any other agency. Washington has no business ‘regulating’ firearms, or tobacco for that matter. Until then Congress should focus on striping the agency of its funds and sending its agents to go dig holes in the desert where they won’t be steping on anyone’s rights.

Until then we should probably add a few more unpopular functions to their exclusive responsibility list like Obamacare tax collection, and everything else that we don’t want done.


35 posted on 05/19/2015 9:10:49 PM PDT by Monorprise
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