I'd like to join Commander Riker in applauding your most excellent post:
Posted on 05/19/2015 4:35:27 AM PDT by Kaslin
In response to the Media’s question to Republican Presidential Candidates “knowing what you know now should we have went to Iraq?” The answer should be something like this - If we had known that the next President was going to double cross us and lose everything we fought for then no we shouldn’t have went. We will just pick up the dead bodies as they kill us here and “Hope” they don’t kill too many of us.
Is the war was won we could have left without the nation disintegrating. We lost big time.
The cancer has been in our country for a long and is now metastasizing quickly.
No one disputes the United States won WWII and we still have troops in Germany. After WWII, there were thousands of troops left in Germany to stabilize the nation.
How many of our troops were blown up by German IEDs? You compare apples to rocks.
I like your response. Send it to Ted Cruz!
There were some killed by German snipers. They killed the snipers. Your point was that if Iraq still needed American troops, then we didn’t win. We won as long as we were there. There would be no Isis in Iraq if American troops had remained, as they remain in Germany even today. Now, I agree with you, it was useless, and laughable, to try to build a Western democracy in Iraq, which has no tradition of democracy, and a dislike of Western ideas. The best hope was to install a somewhat benevolent military government.
Since we are comparing WWII to George and Dicks excellent nation building adventure, google up pictures of Japanese and German cities circa spring 1945. That is how wars are won. Not by building schools, roads and Muslim democracies.
What COULD Bush have done about Iran, Pakistan and Saudia Arabia? He had less than 1/100th the support FDR had when he was fighting to win against Germany, Italy and Japan.
From the moment congress voted to remove So-damned Insane, the hypocrats undermined the war and slandered the president, treasonously and poisonously declaring the war lost, etc.
Looking back, it’s amazing what was gained in Afghanistan, Iraq and globally against al-Qaeda.
Islam is the root problem.
None of this goes away until we realize that.
I’m not holding my breath, America has lost its resolve against evil because when you as a national majority turn on God you become blind to truth.
The truth is Islam is the problem and Islam needs to be discouraged in the strongest terms possible but, it’s not happening.
Islam is from Satan as is Communism, facisim and all forms of tyranny.
What a waste of my time preaching to the choir here.
Since our fist ammendmant is null and void we cannot even discuss what really needs to happen.
Damn it all to hell.
Very, very good article.
I have no clue; I give up. We are on the same page, probably believe the same thing. Saddam Hussein was no where near the powerful enemy Japan and Germany were. Not really much nation building with either; they were already built. They just needed to be defeated. Viet Nam wound up as a defeat (although not militarily). Isis will require at least the same effort to defeat as Saddam Hussein, if not more; then there is Iran. George W Bush refused to deal with Iran; Obama wants to build up Iran and he created the disaster in Iraq when he removed American troops (a non-military Obama caused defeat if you insist). Now the whole Middle East is in reality now a ticking time bomb. They will start terrorist activities in the United States at any moment. What is going on with terrorist activities in the Middle East was forecast by American intelligence at least in the late 80s, when I first read about their predictions.
If I had been president and knew then what I know now — I would have bombed Chicago.
Let alone forgetting the recent (< 6 mo) stories of finding WMDs+ buried in no-man’s land?
Tell a lie often enough
Not that I think we should have gone in there to begin (Saudi on 9/11, not Iraqi); let alone ham-stringing our guys with asinine ROE. You go in, you go in to WIN, not ‘win minds’/nation build/etc.
I'd like to join Commander Riker in applauding your most excellent post:
Limited Vietnam style wars like the one in Afghanistan that leadership wants to end with peace talks ala Vietnam at this point are not the right kind of wars.
They fit policing the world for a New World Order under international (United Nations) law, not the decisive defeat of enemies like Japan and Nazi Germany in WWII.
Rumsfeld said the war after 9/11 was not like World War II.
We could imagine it was if we watched Fox News or used other pro-RINO media.
But in the end it wasn’t, just a higher tech low casualty version of Vietnam.
of course but ANY war requires more than just some people voting for it for political expediency, then turning around and subverting it.
At least successful ones anyway require at least some effort from the people in power to recognize at least which side they’re on.
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