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Total collapse: “Elite” Iraqi units routed in Ramadi counteroffensive
Hot Air.com ^ | May 18, 2015 | ED MORRISEY

Posted on 05/18/2015 3:39:48 PM PDT by Kaslin

Edited on 05/18/2015 4:08:17 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Dogbert41

Nice glint off a couple of tails.


21 posted on 05/18/2015 4:21:10 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Kaslin

The only elite units in Iraq are U.S. SF. If you don’t believe me, ask the former “Emir” of ISIS’s oil and gas operations. I’m sure he felt very secure until Delta came knockin’ and administered the old double-tap.


22 posted on 05/18/2015 4:22:26 PM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

That’s actually a really good question. It’s my opinion that if your country is being overrun by deranged throat slitters the ROE is really simple: Kill them on sight. Period. ALL of them. Now.

All other rules can wait until after the shooting is over.


23 posted on 05/18/2015 4:22:53 PM PDT by navyguy (The National Reset Button is pushed with the trigger finger.)
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To: Always A Marine

Apparently, Joe Biden wasn’t briefed on the operation, otherwise, we’d know the names of every single operator on the mission by now.


24 posted on 05/18/2015 4:23:24 PM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: Kaslin
Shouldn't that be effete Iraqi units?
25 posted on 05/18/2015 4:34:13 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: silverleaf

“Maybe saddam’s army where officers executed their own men for desertion is the only model that works with these people”

Like the Soviet NKVD in WWII - stationed immediately behind the front lines, they made retreat certain death, vice merely probable death in facing the enemy.


26 posted on 05/18/2015 5:04:26 PM PDT by PLMerite ("The issue is never the issue. The issue is the Revolution.")
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To: navyguy

I don’t think so, Navyguy. The Iraqi army is mostly made up of Shi’ites, and ISIS are Sunnis. In fact, when ISIS captures Shi’ites they usually behead them or douse them in gas in an iron cage and light ‘em up.

I guess they figure it’s much better to run then be captured.


27 posted on 05/18/2015 5:19:10 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: Always A Marine

That ‘Unit’ has a long tradition of doing superb work while keeping their mouths shut, even though it means another ‘Team’ tends to get a lot of credit since they tend to talk more. Both the Unit and the Team are extremely well trained and are beyond amazing, it’s just that the Unit tends to keep their mouths shut.


28 posted on 05/18/2015 5:45:08 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Empireoftheatom48

This optic has replaced the line of ISIS Toyotas just as Obama requested.


29 posted on 05/18/2015 6:08:43 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Barack Obama is not inarguably sane.)
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To: Always A Marine
Let me define "Elite" fighting unit.

All Soldiers have a uniform supplied by us. Shirt, trousers, trick unit badges ... the works.
All soldiers have those way cool sand-colored combat boots supplied by us
All Soldiers have sox supplied by us.
Most élite troops will be wearing underwear supplied by us. Except those going commando. (Which is ultrs elite)
All Iraqi soldiers carry AK 74s, supplied by us. (Made in Yugoslavia or Rumania) Ditto RPGs.
The elite units have Abrams Tanks with instructions to leave them full of fuel and running when they bug out.
But what truly makes these troops ELITE, the Muslim Military Crème de la Crème, is that we supply every man jack of this fine body of men with a jaunty beret!

The fighting motto of the Elite Units of the Iraqi 'Army' says it all.

We shall never leave our brothers behind!

30 posted on 05/18/2015 6:29:25 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Hi! We're having a constitutional crisis. Come on over!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

And ISIS are idiots to boot,mwatching Bruce Lee movies to learn how to fight. Face palm.


31 posted on 05/18/2015 10:50:27 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: BenLurkin
Routing seems to be something the Iraqi army is good at.

Bunch of IT techs waiting for a desk job to come along...

32 posted on 05/19/2015 3:14:43 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Alas Babylon!

These are Sunni cities that ISIS is “conquering.” The Shi’ite army has no skin in this game.

Why do Americans recognize the names of Tikrit, Ramadi and Fallujah? Not because of their loyalty to the new Iraqi “nation.”


33 posted on 05/19/2015 3:45:52 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (#Draw, Mohammed!)
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To: antidisestablishment

Agree, and that’s a very good point. Back at the end of World War I, when the Ottomans gave up their Middle East holdings, Iraq—as the nation it is—should not have been formed.

Lebanon should have been bigger, and encompassed more of the parts of Syria that were Christian, and Arabic Sunni Syria and western Iraq should have been one nation, and then the Shia of Iraq another. The Kurds should have got their own country, too. No reason for the Armenians, Azerbaijanis and others to get a country and the Kurds nothing.

The only reason that it didn’t happen was that’s they way France and Great Britain divvied them up. To the victor go the spoils. 100 years later and we’re still living with those spoils, though.


34 posted on 05/19/2015 5:13:59 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: Alas Babylon!

You may be right, but whatever the cause one thing is certain: The Iraqi Army is just about completely worthless.


35 posted on 05/19/2015 10:16:56 AM PDT by navyguy (The National Reset Button is pushed with the trigger finger.)
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To: Kaslin

“...Iraqi government threw in its elite units...”

There is not, nor has there ever been, any such thing as an Iraqi elite unit.


36 posted on 05/19/2015 11:08:42 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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